sorry another question [contest trolls?]

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:44 pm

what a perfect chance to ask a question thats been puzzling me for awile now.

lets say i have a video that was shown at a con, but didn't win.
fast forward to a couple of years later.
in your opinions, would it be trolling to take this vid out of retirment and enter it in another con?

Illia Sadri · Post by **Illia Sadri** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:32 pm

Well one factor is people mention those who submit from Europe and elsewhere and well, in all honesty they don't have the luxury of many conventions as an option. Most people in the US unless they live in say rural Kansas has a convention within a couple hours of them as an option.

For instance one of my submissions for tekko came from aa woman in the United Arab Emirates. I don't think she has a local convention as an option. And why should she be restricted to just a convention that has huge turnouts and maybe a quarter of videos make it and can be seen by the huge audience.

And sometimes smaller conventions need people to send things even if they don't attend to have a good contest. There are not enough editors at a 500 or 1000 person convention to fill a block.

That said, there is a difference between that and trolling. Someone sends that video to virtually every con out there for about 6 months, it gets tired. They pick up a few awards and keep sending it out. That's incredibly annoying.

anneke · Post by **anneke** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:25 pm

You'll notice there is a grey area of 'medium' sized conventions.

If your outside of the US (and those other US like places), you'll also notice another suggestion I give. CONTACT THE AMV DIRECTOR. They will let you know if it's a good idea for you to enter their contest or not. The director will know if they want to keep it local, or if it may be a treat to have a video from outside of the country entered. They may let you enter but decide to not ship you any prizes, or you have to pay shipping for the prizes. YES you have to do more work being out of the country, but one would expect that. Better to put a alittle extra work then screw over the convention and earn a bad rep, or just have your entries tossed out or something like that.

-Anneke

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:32 pm

Opinions on timing a release to coninside with several contests so that it's been submitted to several major and minor cons all at once not having premiered anywhere before the last copy left your hand? (i.e. keeping within the rules of all contests that require videos having not premiered).

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:21 pm

anneke wrote:You'll notice there is a grey area of 'medium' sized conventions.

If your outside of the US (and those other US like places), you'll also notice another suggestion I give. CONTACT THE AMV DIRECTOR. They will let you know if it's a good idea for you to enter their contest or not. The director will know if they want to keep it local, or if it may be a treat to have a video from outside of the country entered. They may let you enter but decide to not ship you any prizes, or you have to pay shipping for the prizes. YES you have to do more work being out of the country, but one would expect that. Better to put a alittle extra work then screw over the convention and earn a bad rep, or just have your entries tossed out or something like that.

-Anneke

I think if directors want to ban international entries, they have the right to - none do, so nobody should bitch about it.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:38 pm

Also, if a contest coordinator posts here asking for more entries because they don't think they'll have enough to fill the time slot, or if s/he contacts you inviting you to enter, then it's a pretty safe bet that you can enter that contest without anyone complaining.

Brakus · Post by **Brakus** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:56 pm

dokool wrote:I think if directors want to ban international entries, they have the right to - none do, so nobody should bitch about it.

At least not until after said international editor win two awards (with two different entries) at one convention, especially a convention that's only 1 1/2 hours away from where I live.

Can you tell I'm not bitter about the contest at AMA 2005?

Infinity Squared · Post by **Infinity Squared** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:44 am

Ha! I've had issues about international entries in the previous year, mainly the fact they won and not more local editors won it. I think that the convention I work for is fairly large (though not as big as the biggest US cons) and in truth is probably the biggest completely anime convention in the country. In light of that, we've always held our competitions (not just AMVs but also other art stuff, fanfics, etc) to be accepting of international entries. I myself do not want to compromise on that. I always thought that if people are complaining that some guy from Europe is winning in the local area, then those locals should strive to make better videos for the next time.

Of course, this is talking from a big(ish) convention point of view. So far as I'm concerned (apart from like the one year rule), I don't care if you've sent your video to many other conventions before mine. All I do care about is having a show to put on to the convention crowd, and if it included some already premiered videos which just happen to be good too, then so be it.

JudgeHolden · Post by **JudgeHolden** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:28 am

Scintilla wrote:Also, if a contest coordinator posts here asking for more entries because they don't think they'll have enough to fill the time slot, or if s/he contacts you inviting you to enter, then it's a pretty safe bet that you can enter that contest without anyone complaining.

And this seems to happen alot with smaller cons simply because they don't have a large enough base of local editors.... it's hard to run an AMV contest with 5-10 entries .....

JH

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:39 am

Brakus wrote:
dokool wrote:I think if directors want to ban international entries, they have the right to - none do, so nobody should bitch about it.
At least not until after said international editor win two awards (with two different entries) at one convention, especially a convention that's only 1 1/2 hours away from where I live.

Can you tell I'm not bitter about the contest at AMA 2005?

You're bitter about any contest you don't win, what else is new?

About 1/3rd of Llamacon's entries were international - oddly enough, none of them won anything. With AAC's contest I tried encouraging local editors to submit (by allowing editors attending the con to submit a 3rd vid), and while nobody's taken me up on that offer yet we still have a few local entries (speaking of AAC, did you get the FTP info, JudgeHolden?).

While I understand how directors can sometimes be frustrated when they announce the winners and nobody's there to accept the awards (I was the only winner present at CTCon out of... 5 winners?), it's very rare that you can rely on local tlaent to populate the contest. Personally, I enjoy watching international vids, so if they want to submit (and if contests are willing to accept them), I see no problem with it.