Help with DVD script

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:16 pm

Minion wrote:what would you suggest i drop it down to?
i havn't noticed any blue tinting, but of course that doesn't mean its not there. i could just be used to looking at it :/

That would have to be decided on a source by source basis.

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:19 am

Zarxrax wrote:Wrong, telecide does Inverse Telecine, not deinterlacing.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Deinterlacing is the generell term for any method to create progressive footage out of interlaced footage. Inverse telecine is a specific method to deinterlace formerly progressive footage, which became interlaced for broadcasting and/or distribution on DVD or similar media.

@Minion
beside the unnecessary u_gain line, your script may fit for most NTSC footage, but it would horribly screw up PAL footage, which NinjaFox obviously uses.

If it are standard compliant PAL-DVD's, the field order should be BFF.

Ninjafox · Post by **Ninjafox** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:26 am

Looking at the footage after my first script, their were no problems with color or interlacing lines, however in some images or throughout the movie, you can see grain or noise, what ever word it is.

Before i can do anything else, ive come across a problem. In my original script i got rid of "ConvertToRGB32()". Soon as i got rid of it, Virtual Dub Mod just closed itself. And now when ever i try loading the AVIsynth file it just keeps closing itself straight away. I tried using the one that you typed up Zarxrax but no luck.

Heres some information that might help:

Top Field First, if motion is smooth use Telecide(order=1)
Bottom Field First, if motion is smooth use Telecide(order=0)

Aspect Ratio - 16:9
Frame size: 720 x 576
Frame rate: 25.000 fps
Video type: PAL
Frame type: Interlaced
Field order: Top

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:24 am

Since the information says "Fieldorder: Top", Zarxrax script should work as is. Since the script only performs deinterlacing and resizing, and SmoothDeinterlace() can work in in RGB space too, try to set the ConvertToRGB32() as it was in your original script. If that works, try to get the latest version of SmoothDeinterlace(). There were several issues with SmoothDeinterlace() and MPEG2Dec as input. Btw, MPEG2Dec is outdated. You should use DGIndex/DGDecode instead of DVD2AVI/MPEG2Dec .

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:48 am

Ah thats right, SmoothDeinterlace doesnt support YV12, so you would need the converttorgb(interlaced=true) back at the very beginning like Keeper of Hellfire said. So just keep your script like the original one you had, but without the last two lines that you had.

@Keeper of Hellfire: You are incorrect about the definition of deinterlacing.
Calling inverse telecine and deinterlacing by the same word only serves to confuse people. I would elaborate but I'm running late right now.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:49 am

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:Wrong, telecide does Inverse Telecine, not deinterlacing.
Sorry, but I have to disagree.

I believe Zarxrax was refer to the fact that pure interlaced footage and telecined footage are different beasts and you should use the best tool for the job.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:03 am

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:Wrong, telecide does Inverse Telecine, not deinterlacing.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. Deinterlacing is the generell term for any method to create progressive footage out of interlaced footage.

No, it isn't. Deinterlacing involves combining two sets of fields into a single frame.

This is not the same thing as inverse telecine, which involves finding and deleting interlaced frames (i.e. operating on multiple frames, not just one) and altering the framerate to match. Deinterlacing is sometimes a part of this process (Telecide can do it as a post-processing step, for example), but it does not have to be.

The terms are not defined by an end product, nor do they necessarily even refer to the same end product. (Visual differences aside, you'll end up with a different framerate in inverse telecine; you won't if you just deinterlace.) They define two different processes with (in general) different products, and it is therefore not appropriate to mash them together.

Ninjafox · Post by **Ninjafox** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:21 am

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:There were several issues with SmoothDeinterlace() and MPEG2Dec as input. Btw, MPEG2Dec is outdated. You should use DGIndex/DGDecode instead of DVD2AVI/MPEG2Dec .

oh i see.. i used the DVD2AVI/MPEG2Dec cause thats the one they used in the ermac and absolute destinys guide, but i used DGIndex. Sorry just going back 1 step, would i have to go through DGIndex, so it automatically makes a AVIsynth file for me to load in VirtualDubMod (im referring to DVD2AVI/MPEG2Dec because i don't know the DGDecode way). Cause VirtualDubMod just keeps closing itself if i try opening the dvd scripts.

The apps i use were all from the AMVapp (Version 2):

Premiere Avisynth Import Filter version 1.2 Premiere 5, 6 and Pro
Avisynth 2.55 (March 20th beta build)
dvd2avi - Donald Graft Edition 1.0.0
DVD Decrypter 3.2.1.0
BeSweet v1.5b26
BeSweetGUI v0.7b4
TooLame 0.2i
Lame ACM 3.95.1
HuffYUV 2.1.1 and yuvdecoderfix.dll
AviFrate - Avi frame rate changer
FFDshow (April 5th 2004 build)
XviD 1.0
Helix YUV Codecs v1.2
VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1

And is this the latest version of smooth deinterlace?
http://www.guthspot.se/video/AVSPorts/S ... nterlacer/

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:40 pm

Ninjafox wrote:And is this the latest version of smooth deinterlace?
http://www.guthspot.se/video/AVSPorts/S ... nterlacer/

Looks like it is. As you can see, meanwhile they have added support for YV12 color space, so the conversion into RGB-colorspace can be done at the end of the script.

Ninjafox · Post by **Ninjafox** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:37 pm

what folder do i put the deinterlace files in lol..??