Getting Permission to Upload Large Files

FurorDraconis · Post by **FurorDraconis** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:27 pm

Hello
I can't seem to find the right forum to post this but my best guess is here. I have made a twelve minute video on adobe premiere in dedication to my anime club. However I was only able to compress it from 5.04Gigs to 292MB. I am aware of all the options to compress, and the different codecs as I have been making amv's for some time. However this was a large enough file/video that it won't get any smaller with what I have tried.
Knowing this, who might I contact/e-mail to ask special permission for a larger video to be uploaded? I was told once that there is an option when uploading it to "click here" to ask permission, however I never got such an option to appear during my process.
Any help would be great and Arigato~

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:22 pm

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=49166

However, given that you've cut down a twelve minute video to ~300 MB, it's clear that there's more compressing you can do yet. Cut the resolution a bit, don't be afraid to use min quant 3 or even 4 in XviD.

FurorDraconis · Post by **FurorDraconis** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:25 pm

I thank you for this help, however, I cannot use Xvid with adobe premiere, it needs a plugin that I don't have. So far only my divx and huffyvu will work. Is there options with them that I am unaware of to compress with?

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:53 pm

No. It's a different program, called VirtualDub. You shouldn't be compressing in Premiere in the first place. Read.

FurorDraconis · Post by **FurorDraconis** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:24 pm

I am not compressing in Premiere...lol. I can't use Xvid in Virtualdub because Premiere won't accept it without the plugin which I don't have and can't locate. Because you must take the footage from Virtualdub into Premiere, I can't work with Xvid only the other two I have. This is what I am trying to say. I compress with the program called TMPGEnc. Does that make sense?

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:50 pm

FurorDraconis wrote:I am not compressing in Premiere...lol. I can't use Xvid in Virtualdub because Premiere won't accept it without the plugin which I don't have and can't locate. Because you must take the footage from Virtualdub into Premiere, I can't work with Xvid only the other two I have. This is what I am trying to say. I compress with the program called TMPGEnc. Does that make sense?

You're wanting to compress the finished project. There's no reason to take it back into Premiere after you compress it. Read the link Kalium gave you. It will tell you to (1) export your premiere timeline to huffyuv (no audio), to (2) open the huffyuv in virtualdub and (3) compress the video and reattach/compress the audio. What you get out of Virtualdub is the final video you'll be uploading to the net and sharing with your friends.

Your 'distribution' copy will be in xvid. It won't be going anywhere near Premiere. It'll be going online so people can download and watch it. So it doesn't matter if Premiere likes xvid or not.

If you're trying to say you don't have an xvid 'option' in your Vdub settings, you're just missing the codec. There should be a link in the guide Kalium gave you. Read it.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:51 pm

Uhm.... no, it doesn't. Do an export from Premiere in HuffYUV. Then import this into VirtualDub. I see no reason for Premiere's ability or inability to handle XviD to matter in the slightest.

Wait, you're doing frameserving through VDub? People actually do that?

Well, regardless. Do a full-quality export to HuffYUV or similarily lossless codec, and then compress in VirtualDub.

FurorDraconis · Post by **FurorDraconis** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:55 pm

I followed Vicbond007's guide on how to make an amv using dvd footage and so hence I just followed his steps and they have always worked till now. His steps after getting the footage(clips) I need from Virtualdub was to put it into premiere and then make my video, export it and then put it into TMPGEnc to compress it. Many years past when I was curious how to make amvs that was the guide I was refered to and hence they way I've done it for years... now I am being told something new. This was my logic, just so you know I did not do this out of madness, I just followed the guide posted on http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides.

Aside from that, I never put the footage back into premiere after I compressed it, that would be dumb. I was not aware you could compress something till the video was done and made but then the guide never mentioned that and my knowledge of virtualdub and all else comes only from that guide. As I said, never had a reason to doubt the guide till now. I was not aware that you could

(1) export your premiere timeline to huffyuv (no audio), to (2) open the huffyuv in virtualdub and (3) compress the video and reattach/compress the audio. What you get out of Virtualdub is the final video you'll be uploading to the net and sharing with your friends.

...and so that part of the link given to me shocked me and I didn't know if it would mess up what I have already done. I will check into this and if I still have issues you will all sadly see my posts on here once more...

I appreciate the advice but as I have said, I did this for a reason, and to my knowledge it made sense up untill now. I never did my homework on what all Virtualdub could do for me, aside from what that guide said it did, being I never had to till now. I will give it a try though... perhaps that guide is now outdated being Kalium said...

Wait, you're doing frameserving through VDub? People actually do that?

... I assume "frameserving" means grabbing my clips? If you ever read that guide you might know what I mean and why I did what I did is all. Whatever the case I appreciate your time and shall give it a shot!

FurorDraconis · Post by **FurorDraconis** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:58 pm

Oh and also, yes I do have xvid, it was the codec I used back when I didn't use premiere as I didn't own it... thank god those days are over.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:27 pm

FurorDraconis wrote:...export it and then put it into TMPGEnc to compress it.

I'm one of those people who say, 'oh, anyone who makes amvs should know how to make an xvid copy'. And I think you should. But...you should be able to get a 130 to 145 mb video out of TMPGEnc if you're saving a 12min vid to mpg. It doesn't compress as tight or as cleanly as vdub+xvid, but Tmpgenc is a nice program. The noise filter is really handy, too.

If you've been using that program longer, it shouldn't be too hard for you to play with the settings a little to get a smaller mpg copy of the video. We have a guide for mpg vids, too, using tmpgenc:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... mpeg1.html

The main thing is to lower the bitrate - if it gets a little fuzzy, compensate by using the noise filter (on the 'high quality slow' setting). If it's still too big, you may have to change the resolution. You can do that cleanly with vdub and an avisynth script. Tmpgenc's resize options are quick, but they aren't very pretty.