Working with MKVs: Editing Software

Auxilia · Post by **Auxilia** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:27 pm

I have a large collection of MKVs and want to make an AMV episode out of it.l However I can't find any video editing software that works with it. I converted one episode into AVI but it still doesn't work (Movie maker doesn't show any of the clips and premiere 1.5 says the compression isn't supported). Anyway, I don't feel like encoding 5 Gig worth of anime into AVI so I was wondering if any of you guys know a good movie editor for MKV files.

Thx.

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:12 pm

Shouldn't some sort of AVS script work? And the only thing that I've seen regularly encoded into MKV's are hentai's. By episode do you just mean a collection of amvs all in one file? Why not just use a playlist?

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:39 pm

I think this individal says they have fansubs (or illegal copies of DVDs) converted to MKV format.

1. Buy Footage
2. Rip to Harddrive
3. Use AVS files via DGIndex
4. Create Lossless Files for Editing From AVS Files
5. ??????
6. PROFIT

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:41 pm

Orwell wrote:And the only thing that I've seen regularly encoded into MKV's are hentai's.

*cough* DVD rips *cough*

Although they could be h.264 fansubs, but that's not too widespread, and the groups typically gravitate toward MP4 or MKV equally, so there wouldn't be much of a chance to rack up a lot of them. So I default to the original cause I put forth.

shiro_clanclan · Post by **shiro_clanclan** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:40 pm

VirtualDubMod, my friend. VirtualDubMod.

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/virt ... p?download

Handles AVI, OGM, MKV. If you have h264, open the MKV by selecting "DirectShowSource" in the drop-down menu when opening a file. You have to have AVISynth and CCCP installed for that to work, however.

AVISynth: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/avis ... e?download

CCCP: http://cccp-project.net/

Good luck with your AMV.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:42 pm

how about instead of using them all at once you use them a few at a time

or only convert the ones you need for a specific project...

or just buy the DVDs

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:39 pm

shiro_clanclan wrote:VirtualDubMod, my friend. VirtualDubMod.

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/virt ... p?download

Handles AVI, OGM, MKV. If you have h264, open the MKV by selecting "DirectShowSource" in the drop-down menu when opening a file. You have to have AVISynth and CCCP installed for that to work, however.

AVISynth: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/avis ... e?download

CCCP: http://cccp-project.net/

Good luck with your AMV.

good advice

Ive been looking all over for noiseman sound insect, all i have is the mkv so i may just use that for editing

shiro_clanclan · Post by **shiro_clanclan** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:26 pm

A tip I've learned while working with these and other files:

Some files you open with VirtualDubMod will have poor XviD or DivX encoding, which VirtualDub can't read just right. To figure out if this is the case, hold shift and scan forward in the timeline, then scan back. If you see a different frame, it's not reading properly. Alternatively, scan forward, then release shift and scan ahead one frame. If the scene suddenly jumps ahead, it's not reading properly.

For encodes like this, open just like you would with an h264 encode--DirectShowSource. This will read it as a raw image stream. From there, just find the scene you want and encode it as huffyuv. Viola, no errors from your editing program and no loss of quality.

If, however, you get no frame-jumping errors... just find the scene you want and use direct-stream copy. No reason to re-encode an encode if you don't have to.

And if you don't need the audio, it's always a good idea to disable the audio streams before saving your clip.

Hopefully this helps some. ^-^

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:35 pm

shiro_clanclan wrote:Some files you open with VirtualDubMod will have poor XviD or DivX encoding, which VirtualDub can't read just right.

It's not a sign of poor encoding, it's just a sign that the file uses B-frames (which yes, could be argued for or against because AVI doesn't officially support B-frames). If you're taking clips, you just have to remember not to backtrack once you've found the frame you want, or make doubly-sure that the frame you want to start on isn't affected by the B-frames.

In actuality, it would be a lot easier to use the AVISource function, as that is specifically meant for AVI and produces the same effect (no B-frames, no frame jumping). However, opening it with AviSynth, regardless of the function used, makes the Shift+arrow pad approach impotent (and using Alt+arrow pad to go 50 frames forward or back is not as comfortable).

bum · Post by **bum** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:35 am

I hate working with videos that uses mpeg4 based compression. It's such a pain in the ass to seek through them. Nothing beats dgindex>avisynth>vfapi .