Blu-ray Disc are coming...

[sigmatron]

A 250GB to 120GB hard drive is ~$80 to $120

10 of these is 250 it's smaller and safer to use.

Explain. For permanent back ups, using standard IDE drives seems silly. They're rather bulky, and quite heavy in comparison to discs or cards.

I think he means 10 Blu-ray discs (25GB each) would be equivalent to a 250GB HDD.

Although each one is smaller, all together 10 BDs would probably be about the same volume of a 3.5" HDD. And, since the BDs themselves do not have any moving parts and aren't affected by magnetic fields, they should be more reliable in the long run for storage (as long as you have a drive that can read them in the future). I'd just keep them out of the light and in a cool environment. At the moment though, 10 BD-R discs ($30 each X 10 = $300) are going to be more expensive than a 250GB HDD (~$120).

yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.

[Coderjo]

I'd rather pay twice as much as long as I'm guranteed I will not have BD disc just up and die one day.

But you aren't garanteed that. We're just now seeing the short life span of recordable CDs.

yes, but with CD's is a 100 year life span if you put it in a case and put
into a some with ~50 to 90%F.

some thing with DVD's.

Not really true. We have a spindle of CDs here at work that we can't really use anymore. They've been covered in the spindle case, in a 60 to 80 degress fahrenheit environment, out of sunlight. But when we try burning to them, we turn on data verification and the verification fails miserably.

[Coderjo]

yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.

And what is the quality of those $0.20 discs? Quality is still a bit more expensive, but even their prices have had to fall to be able to compete with the cheap crapola manufacturers out there.

[sigmatron]

yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.

And what is the quality of those $0.20 discs? Quality is still a bit more expensive, but even their prices have had to fall to be able to compete with the cheap crapola manufacturers out there.

now high quality like HP, Memorex, and Verbatim. most of them at 16X.

and the DVD burning drive's are cheaper now ~$40

[sigmatron]

the new Blu-ray DVD's are 100 times more scratch resistant than a stanard disc.
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_06.jpg

http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_08.jpg

http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_05.jpg

it's under TDK here http://www.blu-ray.com/ifa2005/

[Coderjo]

yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.

And what is the quality of those $0.20 discs? Quality is still a bit more expensive, but even their prices have had to fall to be able to compete with the cheap crapola manufacturers out there.

now high quality like HP, Memorex, and Verbatim. most of them at 16X.

and the DVD burning drive's are cheaper now ~$40

Most brandnames don't really mean anything, since they buy manufacturing capacity from some other company the majority of the time. Give it a shot. take some of your discs and use a utility to find out what manufaturer is written onto the disc. With CDs, this information is stored in a read-only aread called the Absolute Time In Pre-gap (ATIP), which stores info, such as how long the CD is, what kind of dye it has, and who manufactured it. I'm sure recordable DVDs have a similar thing to communicate the dye and how long the disc is, and such.

[Coderjo]

the new Blu-ray DVD's are 100 times more scratch resistant than a stanard disc.
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_06.jpg
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_08.jpg
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_05.jpg
it's under TDK here http://www.blu-ray.com/ifa2005/

I wouldn't bindly trust information from the companies behind a technology on a claim like that. I would rather see independant verification. Until then, this falls in the "marketing hype" category for me.

[sigmatron]

the new Blu-ray DVD's are 100 times more scratch resistant than a stanard disc.
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_06.jpg
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_08.jpg
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/ifa2005/tdk_05.jpg
it's under TDK here http://www.blu-ray.com/ifa2005/

I wouldn't bindly trust information from the companies behind a technology on a claim like that. I would rather see independant verification. Until then, this falls in the "marketing hype" category for me.

that's a good point, but must of the time they tell at lest half-truth.
25GB is still 25GB!!

[amvwizard]

dude thats fuckin crazy that might as well be a damn hard drive

lol what if they made them dual laye lol 25+25=50gb!!! i would fuckin kill me self if that happend.......

[sigmatron]

dude thats fuckin crazy that might as well be a damn hard drive

lol what if they made them dual laye lol 25+25=50gb!!! i would fuckin kill me self if that happend.......

they are planning to and 8 layers ~ about 200GB

but TB in CD size wow!!!.

i have a 10MB hard drive!!

at 2008 there will be the 1000GB (1TB) disc!!!