Is one category more improtant than another in an amv?...

[SarahtheBoring]

I know I've asked this question in the past but didn't quiet get the answer I was looking for.

That's not how asking questions works, dude.

Anyway, it's individual. Every single one of the comments I've gotten on my last video has been about video/audio quality - my video isn't very good, so I don't demand a giant dedication of download time and HD space to it - so that's clearly first and foremost to most people. ("So...how was the video?" "What video?")

As for the reason: all you need to do is tell people up-front what your judging system is, and they can pick videos (or make them) to fit your guidelines if they want to. You're never going to settle on a universal definition, because it's very much an individual preference.

[Knowname]

I love my Originality as that encompases concept and nobody wants to watch a video from a total retard.

*my average originality is... 9.9 ;p

Second I have a thing for audio. Amazingly crisp audio or dub edits is what I like. I RARELEY see sound effects NEVER see dub edits (unless it's a trailor which doesn't count) and NEVER see uber crisp audio! Ppl just tweak their mp3 output until it sounds best than forget about it. Unless of coarse, they forgot to compress it... which again, DOESN'T COUNT!! lmao ;p

[Flint the Dwarf]

Where would you put lyric sync. Action Sync is described as "How well the music went with the action of the video. If the action matches up well with the video score high. If it looks like the two are unrelated or off score low."

If anything, I'd include lyrical sync in the reviewability and originality score. As lyric sync has quite a bit to do with how well the video's concept is pulled off, the reviewability will be affected, as will the originality. But action sync won't be affected one way or the other. Let's take Euphoria for example. If you were to remove all vocals from that video, would you give it a lower action sync score?

[Sierra Lorna]

If anything, I'd include lyrical sync in the reviewability and originality score. As lyric sync has quite a bit to do with how well the video's concept is pulled off, the reviewability will be affected, as will the originality. But action sync won't be affected one way or the other. Let's take Euphoria for example. If you were to remove all vocals from that video, would you give it a lower action sync score?

I actually agree with genestarwind. Action sync should include everything to do with how the creator matched the song. They should match the lyrics, the beats, and the mood changes (but of course if there were no lyrics, don't include that). So I'd put that all under the same category. And I think that action sync is definitely the most important category. Blending the song and the video seamlessly should be the ultimate goal for every AMV, and the more creative you can be about it, the better. Although every other category for a video is also important for its overall impression and enjoyment.

[Zarxrax]

AMVs can't be broken down into a science such that you can say "oh! this video had .05% better action editing macroblock effects, so that makes it batter than THAT video"

There is only one score that matters - Overall.

[downwithpants]

AMVs can't be broken down into a science such that you can say "oh! this video had .05% better action editing macroblock effects, so that makes it batter than THAT video"

There is only one score that matters - Overall.

x2 except i'd argue the only score that matters is the star score.
here's my original argument: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 571#780571

i do find the star score to be more accurate in gauging the entertainment value of a video than the opinion score because it's anonymous, not directed at the creator, and rates the video as a whole rather than a sum of components (of which the value of a video is not.) the "overall" score in the opinion of a video could rate the video as a whole, but people often have different methods of coming up with the overall score (some just average their other opinion scores, some use some indicator of the video).

i seriously hope you don't believe there's any valid objective method to determine the quality of a video, or which of two videos is better.

[JaddziaDax]

but at the same time theres several out there that abuse the star scales as well, so people will often be over rated or under rated...

truthfully this is why I dont rely solely on numbers, sure they are nice and its awesome to have several rating systems... but I like to go off of recomendations from my friends thats a better gague of how enjoyable an AMV is going to be... atleast to me.

[downwithpants]

well first, i didn't mean you should use the actual star score a video has received in judging the winner of a contest. (if you did, there would be no actual 'contest' because the winner would be predetermined by already existing statistics.) i was arguing that the star score is the better indicator of the entertainment value of an amv, and i was implying that, as a judge, you can evaluate videos by the same method you use to come up with a star score (which should be at least partially subjective and not simply calculated from a composite of objective criteria).

second, the opinion system is as vulnerable to abuse as the star system. the site implements measures to reduce the effects of abuse on both systems, but of course neither is perfect. assuming the effects of abuse aren't significantly stronger on the star system than they are on the opinion system, i would still maintain that the star system is better for measuring entertainment value.

[Flint the Dwarf]

I actually agree with genestarwind. Action sync should include everything to do with how the creator matched the song. They should match the lyrics, the beats, and the mood changes (but of course if there were no lyrics, don't include that).

Alright, well, let's look at it this way: what is action? Action, essentially, is motion. On one level, it would make sense with lyric sync because, due to the nature of video, there is generally motion synced up with vocals. Now I could draw a distinction here. I've always felt there were two types of sync to be used with singing. The first is lyric sync, and has to do with the words and the content of imagery. The second is vocal sync, which has to do with the sound of the singing synced up with motion.

Now with lyric sync, what is important? Generally, the importance is in plot or emotion, which contain actions but are not essentially actions. With vocal sync, the importance is in what you see in relation to what you hear... rather than the thoughts that occur.

Anyway, it's semantics and apparently I'm among the few who feel this way. I've given my reasons, and I hope it makes some sense, but I guess it doesn't really matter.