Subtitle removal before or after Project is done?

James Sharp · Post by **James Sharp** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:38 pm

well up untill now whenever i have had to deal with subs. i would just take the footage and convert the clips i wanted into huffyuv files and then make my project. then after the project is finished, cut out the subs with virtual dub. well i was wondering if its best to just crop out the subs in virtual dub when you convert to huffy uv. that way you can adjust premire proplerly to the real screen size that you want. what do you think?.

celibi87 · Post by **celibi87** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:47 pm

Hmm not only would that save you the painstaking time of having to recompress just to get rid of subs but ou would kill two birds with one stone, i say go for it.

bum · Post by **bum** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:38 am

You do it during the editing, with the method for removing the subs depending on the individual clip.

AquaSky · Post by **AquaSky** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:34 am

Rip your footage from DVD in the first place and it'll be a non-issue.

qazyseult · Post by **qazyseult** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:48 pm

That's not always possible/practical, IcyCloud. Typically, I cut out the subs while I edit. I think it's a bad idea to cut them out in the beginning because some filters/codecs have problems if the file isn't in a standard size. Cutting them out after Means an additional re-encode and possible loss of quality. Cutting it out while you edit lets you do some different things to get rid of subs. You can simply layer something on top, clip it off, cut the subject of the clip out and put it on a background, move the frame down to crop it off, ect. Some people might complain about you using a non-DVD source for quality reasons. If you find a creative way to take a frame and shrink it by at least 90%, that's usually enough to make it stand against DVD. Sure, you'll get a black bar around the frame, but it's YOU'RE amv. You control the space. Do whatever you want with it.

mikestrife · Post by **mikestrife** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:05 pm

I think it depends on how much of you footage actually has subs. If you cut around the subs and there are only a few clips it's much better to clear them out while editing.

James Sharp · Post by **James Sharp** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:16 pm

hmm. im not sure if i completly follow but lemme try to sum it up and then you can correct me if im wrong. so what you guys do is edit the subs as they come up in the scenes in your video? if so wouldent that ruin the overall look of the amv. because you would not have a set size for your clips. so it would be constantly fluxuating a half an inch or so. because of the crop that is used to cover the subs. of course it depends on how much sub footage you actually plan to use though.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:45 pm

James Sharp wrote:hmm. im not sure if i completly follow but lemme try to sum it up and then you can correct me if im wrong. so what you guys do is edit the subs as they come up in the scenes in your video? if so wouldent that ruin the overall look of the amv. because you would not have a set size for your clips. so it would be constantly fluxuating a half an inch or so. because of the crop that is used to cover the subs. of course it depends on how much sub footage you actually plan to use though.

not quite... resize everything to 1 size. If you have a majority of cropped clips, shrink non cropped clips to confirm to the size.

mikestrife · Post by **mikestrife** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:48 pm

James Sharp wrote:hmm. im not sure if i completly follow but lemme try to sum it up and then you can correct me if im wrong. so what you guys do is edit the subs as they come up in the scenes in your video? if so wouldent that ruin the overall look of the amv. because you would not have a set size for your clips. so it would be constantly fluxuating a half an inch or so. because of the crop that is used to cover the subs. of course it depends on how much sub footage you actually plan to use though.

Since I so rarely use footage that have subs, I don't do this often, but I try my best to edit around the subs, and if the few places that I had to keep subs in my video I just zoomed in to like 110% instead of croping or letteboxing. Since it was only in minial places I was fine with the quality loss on those few clips. But if you have them in more than a couple places, probably recommended to use another method.

qazyseult · Post by **qazyseult** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:25 pm

Like I was saying, some creative cutting, resizing and effects can get rid of subtitles. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=54290

The source for that was full of subtitles and occaisionally that little clock in the upper left. For example, the car scene had the clock, which I got rid of by using nifty overlays.

Then again, I do mean to toot my own horn. Toot toot!!!

I hope this helps.