AMV archiving solution around?

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AMV archiving solution around?

Post by B-Ran » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:55 am

Lately I've been thinking - arching a lot of AMVs isn't really easy, if you have a set of over 200 AMVs (and I bet a lot have far more), it's already tricky.

Now if there was special AMV jukebox/archive tool where you could assign AMV-typical details to every file like "creator" "song" "music artist" "anime used" etc. , and then quickly be able to search and filter your AMV selection - that would be pretty awesome.

So my questions are:
Is there such a tool around already?
And if not, wouldn't it be possible to create such a program?

I could imagine in our huge AMV-community, there are some programming talents who may find the idea interesting. And if they finish it, it could be up on the .Org for download - in terms of fame, it will probably be rewarding too ^_^

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Post by GDProductions » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:14 am

I don't know if such a tool does exist but if your thinking of the same thing that's been done with mp3's for a while now it could be a bit more tricky.
Mp3's are designed to incorporate the identificantion data (Artist, track name, album ect.) and thus it's quite easy to make a tool because it only needs to read the file. I don't know if any video format carries the needed identificational data but i bet some of them dont. This pretty much rules out the AMV's carrying the info in itself because there isn't a single video standart and it would be a hell of a mess to just add the data to the file.

you could however make a tool that, instead of reading the data in the file, reads only the filename, filesize and extention (and possibly codec too). It would then search a database, consisting of every AMV here on the org (ideally anyway), for a match and retrives the info from the database. This ofcourse means a ton of work.

I'm not 100% sure of everything i've written here. If the files can carry the info, it should be considerably easier to make a tool for managing them.

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Post by Zarxrax » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:43 pm

I have the same concern and I have thought about writing such a tool sometime in the future. That might be quite far into the future though...

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Post by Scintilla » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:21 pm

This might be easier with WinFS, when it comes out.

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Re: AMV archiving solution around?

Post by Knowname » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:50 pm

B-Ran wrote:Lately I've been thinking - arching a lot of AMVs isn't really easy, if you have a set of over 200 AMVs (and I bet a lot have far more), it's already tricky.

Now if there was special AMV jukebox/archive tool where you could assign AMV-typical details to every file like "creator" "song" "music artist" "anime used" etc. , and then quickly be able to search and filter your AMV selection - that would be pretty awesome.

So my questions are:
Is there such a tool around already?
And if not, wouldn't it be possible to create such a program?

I could imagine in our huge AMV-community, there are some programming talents who may find the idea interesting. And if they finish it, it could be up on the .Org for download - in terms of fame, it will probably be rewarding too ^_^
I like my fast connection and trusty notepad. Along with my (Sub0, top 5 in most opiniotive) many reviews I can call up MANY of the amvs I'd watched in the passed 5 years and re-d/l them fast enough. This is basically why QCs were made. To stop me. But nothing will stop me ;p MAHAHAHA! ;p

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Post by B-Ran » Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:28 pm

GDProductions wrote:I don't know if such a tool does exist but if your thinking of the same thing that's been done with mp3's for a while now it could be a bit more tricky.
Mp3's are designed to incorporate the identificantion data (Artist, track name, album ect.) and thus it's quite easy to make a tool because it only needs to read the file. I don't know if any video format carries the needed identificational data but i bet some of them dont. This pretty much rules out the AMV's carrying the info in itself because there isn't a single video standart and it would be a hell of a mess to just add the data to the file.

you could however make a tool that, instead of reading the data in the file, reads only the filename, filesize and extention (and possibly codec too). It would then search a database, consisting of every AMV here on the org (ideally anyway), for a match and retrives the info from the database. This ofcourse means a ton of work.

I'm not 100% sure of everything i've written here. If the files can carry the info, it should be considerably easier to make a tool for managing them.
I thought about that problem too, that's why I was really thinking of manually assigning that ID-information to each file, even if it's eventually a lot of work. To make things easier in future, that ID-info could come in a little file that would be downloadable from the .Org for those using that AMV-archiving software.

I'm just imagining though - I'm far off from being a programmer, I could assist in graphics and visual GUI-concepts if needed, but that's surely not the biggest work here ^^;;

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Re: AMV archiving solution around?

Post by trythil » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:57 pm

B-Ran wrote:Lately I've been thinking - arching a lot of AMVs isn't really easy, if you have a set of over 200 AMVs (and I bet a lot have far more), it's already tricky.

Now if there was special AMV jukebox/archive tool where you could assign AMV-typical details to every file like "creator" "song" "music artist" "anime used" etc. , and then quickly be able to search and filter your AMV selection - that would be pretty awesome.

So my questions are:
Is there such a tool around already?
And if not, wouldn't it be possible to create such a program?

I could imagine in our huge AMV-community, there are some programming talents who may find the idea interesting.
This is trivial: it is easily doable with a relational database and a graphical front-end. (What do you think the .org catalog is?)

Here's an interesting project: search by visual content. Similar to imgSeek, but for video. It would also be much more useful for large collections, if reasonably quick.

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Post by Zarxrax » Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:06 pm

trythil wrote:Here's an interesting project: search by visual content. Similar to imgSeek, but for video. It would also be much more useful for large collections, if reasonably quick.
What the heck would that be usefull for? Draw a scene that you remembered from the video to search for the video? That seems dumb. Maybe I'm not seeing the real purpose?

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Re: AMV archiving solution around?

Post by trythil » Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:27 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
trythil wrote:Here's an interesting project: search by visual content. Similar to imgSeek, but for video. It would also be much more useful for large collections, if reasonably quick.
What the heck would that be usefull for? Draw a scene that you remembered from the video to search for the video? That seems dumb. Maybe I'm not seeing the real purpose?
Provide rough sketches of a portion of a video -- say frames A, A+B, A+B+C, ... , A+B+C + ... + N to search for the video. Or something along those lines.

If accurate enough, it is much more useful for large collections. The old textual tag method might be useful when you want a lot of results, when you can remember a lot of information to narrow the query, or if e.g. the AMV in question uses obscure source, but that gets harder and harder to do as one's collection gets bigger and bigger.

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Post by Zarxrax » Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:28 pm

And you think it would be EASY for people to remember what frames of the video look like and draw them? What about effects videos?

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