A newbie's thought's on anime music videos in general

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:22 pm

arzuro wrote:
Otohiko wrote:
In fact, my take on it is that I'm at best interested in 1% of AMVs on this site. But that 1% is enough for me to keep faith in AMVing - but not blind faith. Critical viewing is where it's at - one just needs to be careful not to confuse a critical approach with an overly-presumptious one based on overly solid preconceived notions.

And I claim that that 1% is made by the 1% of creators that would not stop making amv if they had no way of showing them to other people.

True Arzuro, True. ^_^

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:24 pm

Damn, I clicked on the submit button without want. Sorry for the double post. I wanted to quote Arzuro on that, this is surely true, since many of the good editors here even didn't know this site when they were working on their works. =) And this is only an example.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:27 pm

arzuro wrote: And I claim that that 1% is made by the 1% of creators that would not stop making amv if they had no way of showing them to other people.

Maybe, but there's not really a 1-to-1 correspondence in that. I wouldn't deny there's shoddy videos made for personal causes; and of course, many great videos are made by people who are fiercely, fiercely competitive.

In the end, sure, it evens out - but these two things aren't neccesarily related (or mutually exclusive).

But I think saying that most of anything is not worth attention for a particular individual is stating the obvious. Just the same, it's worth a try.

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By the way, just for the record, I originally came to the AMV community with a rather negative and even angry attitude towards what I saw as bad tendencies in the community. A deeper look changed my views very quickly.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:31 pm

Another true thing, the competition factor usually is really important. But even determination and passion to what you're doing are essentials in my opinion.

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:38 pm

Tons of ambition cannot make up for an ounce of talent. It's true that everything is 1% talent and 99% work, but if the talent isn't there... It is my personal belief that people who do have specific talents have an urge to develop which they can never overcome. While these people may be very competition driven, I would still expect them to be part of the group that would not start making amv if there was no showing them.

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:40 pm

Bleh, I mean stop not start.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:44 pm

arzuro wrote:Tons of ambition cannot make up for an ounce of talent. It's true that everything is 1% talent and 99% work, but if the talent isn't there... It is my personal belief that people who do have specific talents have an urge to develop which they can never overcome. While these people may be very competition driven, I would still expect them to be part of the group that would not start making amv if there was no showing them.

I'm not narcisist, so I can't call myself talented, but I'm sure that I'm generally proud of my works, and to be sincere, I started to have intesrest into this "Hobby" before know the existence of this site. In the end, since it's really something I have passion of, I would continue to do this even if I would not be able to post it on the web. Even train myself for a future job would be something great, that I also do with everyone of my "creations". Of course, be able to show them to you people, is something that gives to me extremely big emotions, be able to show what I've done in weeks of work, be able to hear if it sucks or if it rock.. It is something really beautiful and let me say.. That hearing criticism from other people (to mine or to others videos), and most of all by viewing others Amvs, are been the things that made me improve the most. Of course, Only Ambition would end with what you said, so I think I quote you again here.

Malificus · Post by **Malificus** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:44 pm

arzuro wrote:Tons of ambition cannot make up for an ounce of talent. It's true that everything is 1% talent and 99% work, but if the talent isn't there... It is my personal belief that people who do have specific talents have an urge to develop which they can never overcome. While these people may be very competition driven, I would still expect them to be part of the group that would not start making amv if there was no showing them.

I know plenty of people who do something they have no inherent talent at for fun, and others who are be very good at something naturally, but don't like doing it. For example, I've met many people who can't draw, but do so for fun, and I've met people who are naturally very strong, fast or athletic, but dislike/don't play sports. What you like to do has nothing to do with your talent in it.

arzuro · Post by **arzuro** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:49 pm

An athletic body is not a talent any more than big boobs are a talent.

Malificus · Post by **Malificus** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:52 pm

arzuro wrote:An athletic body is not a talent any more than big boobs are a talent.

I didn't say athletic body, I said they are naturally athletic, as in they run fast and are strong through no effort on their own part, which is as much a talent as being able to draw, write, act, fight, edit AMVs, or sing without practice.