US editors: Look at what is going on in congress (IMPORTANT)

[Vlad G Pohnert]

When was the last AMV you made with ripped DVD footage?

That not going out of my way just to break the so called "copyright laws" as it's the only way to work on my hobby. I meant that I’m not going out of my way just to screw then out of money.

I think the problems stem from the fact that we are all human and share the same qualities. In respect, we are all greedy (we all demand our luxuries and toys) and it's no different for the people who run the MPAA/RIAA, it’s just they happen to have bigger luxuries and toys.

I don’t disagree that laws should make since and be balanced, but it's a double edge sword as the corporations want to sponge all the money from us and in a lot of times they exhibit unethical or even "criminal" like methodology. Both then again, there are those consumers that just copy everything and don't bother to pay a cent and that's immoral and "criminal" on their part. So as long as we are human, laws will never be truly balanced

In terms of AMVs, I don't see then in any of the above categories. Do they break the "law"... well in a black and white world "Yes", but then again every human on this planet breaks laws and that does not make us immoral, criminals.

SO in the end, I'll just keep doing my hobby of making AMVs regardless as there will always be a way of making them.

Anyway, I think it's a silly proposition and not even practical... that's my bottom line and I'll stick with it.

Vlad

[trythil]

That not going out of my way just to break the so called "copyright laws" as it's the only way to work on my hobby.

It does not HAVE to be.

That is the point I keep pushing, and it is the point that, for some reason, keeps getting ignored without rebuttal.

don’t disagree that laws should make since and be balanced, but it's a double edge sword as the corporations want to sponge all the money from us and in a lot of times they exhibit unethical or even "criminal" like methodology. Both then again, there are those consumers that just copy everything and don't bother to pay a cent and that's immoral and "criminal" on their part. So as long as we are human, laws will never be truly balanced

So the viewpoint you're pushing, really, is "who cares, it'll never work out, just give up".

If this is the case, I've already answered why apathy is an inefficient engine of any sort of expression. That also has not yet been rebuked.

SO in the end, I'll just keep doing my hobby of making AMVs regardless as there will always be a way of making them.

Even if you end up breaking the law to do it, and thus play into the strategy of big media.

I don't understand why you find that arrangement acceptable.

[BasharOfTheAges]

I think too many people realize that one person cannot make a difference, but a group of individuals (who each seem to think they are an idividual who CAN make a difference) with promote change... so i guess "viva la revolution!"

[BasharOfTheAges]

that should have been "will promote change"

[Dalto_123]

they cant do this this is like baning the toaster after you put a peice of bread in it ahhhhhhhhh.

[Pie Row Maniac]

Do you feel the responsibility to change the laws to what you feel is right or do you feel the need to wait for programmers to crack through whatever law is made for you?

[Vlad G Pohnert]

It does not HAVE to be.

That is the point I keep pushing, and it is the point that, for some reason, keeps getting ignored without rebuttal.

And I thought I addresses it... We are Human.. no LAW will ever satisfy both sides so as long as there is greed... this does not mean we have to ignore them or just accept them, but what your talking about is having a perfect balance.. Never happen

So the viewpoint you're pushing, really, is "who cares, it'll never work out, just give up".

If this is the case, I've already answered why apathy is an inefficient engine of any sort of expression. That also has not yet been rebuked.

How do you see that?? I never said I don't care, I'm just saying this will always be a debatable issue as we can never satify everyone... But that does not mean we have to ignore it or try to atleast reach a better solution

Vlad

[Inuyasha the 3rd]

I really hope this doesnt pass. If it does, then my hobby of making AMV's will be over and done for. Its just plain BS. Pretty soon, TiVO's, and DVR's will be illegal. -_-

Well, we can only hope for the better, that this stupid bill doesnt pass....

[SQ]

This is just like the TiVo commercials argument, then. If you fast forward through commercials, the commercials aren't worth making, and since now everyone has TiVo(or some derevative) and is not watching live TV, commercials aren't as effective, which is why companies want to flag commercials so you can't fast forward through them...

.. Like titles on DVDs. I forget exactly what type of titles these are, but you can't skip past them when you play the DVD(they usually have the studio name and the federal warning thing).

So the steps we're taking are the titles on DVDs(existant, but not popular) -> Blocking fastforwarding of commercials(still being debated, last I heard) -> Closing the analog hole?

I know it's sad that I don't get this, but at least I'm admitting I don't get it and not spouting false truths and making sure my opinion means something.

But the sad thing is it's the people who abide by the law who get screwed, as it seems Sony has already proven?
If a big company like Sony started this, who's to say the government won't do something just as assinine to protect profits?
(Or is this completely unrelated to the matter at hand?)

[Malificus]

Of course if this continues further, DVDs, VHS, whatever won't be made anymore because you can lend that to other people. You will have to Pay-per-view everything.