footage stealing --Has this ever happened to you?

priuscomet · Post by **priuscomet** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 2:09 am

i've never had to use another person's vid as a source footage....

but i'm thinking about it. only, i'm going to ask them first... course, if they deny me then it'd put a stump on my vid that i'm workin on now....

Maximo · Post by **Maximo** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 5:47 am

I did when i first started out. I was just using them to get familiar with the program, but i didn't put them out there for other people to see, thats just plain WRONG!

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:01 am

Chaos Angel wrote:What do you mean when you say that it had 10 minutes on the players clock, that the video went longer than the projected time?

Not quite like that . Guess I should of explained it better the first time. The entire video was about 10 minutes in lenth, that was on my player's clock. There was only about 4 minutes of the 10 was actual video (with about 50% of it being my video raped -_-;; ) . From like minutes 4 to 7 of the video there was nothing and then around 7:45 on the clock, it started playing the song that I used for my song...almost the complete song. It seems to me that whoever used it just moved my song way down on the timeline of his video editor and forgot to delete it.

And to the rest of ya , Thanks for the input

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 10:15 am

News flash: YOU DID NOT MAKE THE FOOTAGE YOU ARE USING. YOU DID NOT DRAW IT, LISENCE IT OR GET PERMISSION FROM THE ORIGINAL CREATOR TO USE IT. (with of course, a few exceptions)

furthermore: YOU DID NOT MAKE THE _SONG_ USED IN YOUR VIDEO. YOU DID NOT GET PERMISSION FROM THE ORIGINAL CREATOR TO USE IT.

Therefore, how and why can you be upset when someone 'bastardizes' (sp) your video? It's not YOURS. Feed me the line about the effects and all I can say is so what? you tweaked the footage. Big fucking deal.

Now, if someone blatently takes THE ENTIRE VIDEO and claims it as their own, thats wrong, but I dont see how or why anyone gets upset for people 'stealing' footage out of 'their' AMV. isn't that what we do anyway?

So here it is.. Anyone who wants to use any footage from any of my videos may feel free. I do not care. In fact, if you like it that much, I'd be honored.

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 11:36 am

I'm with ladydx on this one...while I admit I did use clips from an AMV once, I try to avoid doing so, and, without the option of a DVD-Rom (yet...) I'd stick with fansubs over other peoples' work...

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 1:39 pm

Heero_Yuy84 wrote:I'm with ladydx on this one...while I admit I did use clips from an AMV once, I try to avoid doing so, and, without the option of a DVD-Rom (yet...) I'd stick with fansubs over other peoples' work...

Like fansubs don't involve people's work? Digital fansub groups spend huge amounts of time in order to get good quality sources to fansub from. They also pour time into encoding things in the best possible quality to get it to people. Ripping off from digisubs isn't much different than ripping clips off of other videos.

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 2:28 pm

nailz1000 wrote: So here it is.. Anyone who wants to use any footage from any of my videos may feel free. I do not care. In fact, if you like it that much, I'd be honored.

Be kind of hard with your logo plastered on it.

*watches Rollin again*

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 3:01 pm

mexicanjunior wrote:Be kind of hard with your logo plastered on it. *watches Rollin again*

Well, I DID stop doing that you know =p ...

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 5:42 pm

BogoSort wrote:
Heero_Yuy84 wrote:I'm with ladydx on this one...while I admit I did use clips from an AMV once, I try to avoid doing so, and, without the option of a DVD-Rom (yet...) I'd stick with fansubs over other peoples' work...
Like fansubs don't involve people's work? Digital fansub groups spend huge amounts of time in order to get good quality sources to fansub from. They also pour time into encoding things in the best possible quality to get it to people. Ripping off from digisubs isn't much different than ripping clips off of other videos.

Point...I withdraw my previous statement (or at least as close ot withdrawing as possible on the board)

silver_moon · Post by **silver_moon** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 9:44 pm

nailz1000 wrote:News flash: YOU DID NOT MAKE THE FOOTAGE YOU ARE USING. YOU DID NOT DRAW IT, LISENCE IT OR GET PERMISSION FROM THE ORIGINAL CREATOR TO USE IT. (with of course, a few exceptions)

furthermore: YOU DID NOT MAKE THE _SONG_ USED IN YOUR VIDEO. YOU DID NOT GET PERMISSION FROM THE ORIGINAL CREATOR TO USE IT.

Therefore, how and why can you be upset when someone 'bastardizes' (sp) your video? It's not YOURS.

You make some good points... however, I do see one difference. When we take footage from a lisenced company, people know where it came from. If we take something from Evangelion, it says so in our video info page and often it is even written in people's videos that it is from the anime Evangelion. People know that we did not make the series ourselves. Same goes for the music. We specify what song it is and who did the song. If we made the pictures and/or music ourselves, we say so. We don't get permission from the anime or song companies, but we do give them credit.

Usually if someone takes footage from another person's video, the creator of the original video doesn't get any credit. So people will probably think the one who took the footage is the one who took the time to cut and edit the scenes. I believe this is wrong; if someone's hours of work is taken and made into something else, it should be specified that they did not actually create those effects or whatever. If credit was given, I wouldn't mind at all. I would be honored and I say if they're willing to say where they got their footage from, I would just let them do it.