動画 「どうが」, "douga" : moving image (動 = movement; motion, 画 = image)Scintilla wrote:And that's why his are Douga-MADs, as opposed to Seishiga-MADs... right?angelx03 wrote:You know, not all MADs can be all effects. Hell, Chack'n's videos are considered MADs, and all this person used is straight cuts and fades (almost makes some other "straight cuts and fades" videos look like a joke). :roll:
By god, you just converted meBeowulf wrote:Whats a shame is that the editors obviously have a SUPREME level of technical mastery. The stuff they create is just sometimes out of this world on a creative level. But that doesn't negate the fact that it is complete and utter trash.
I think that is a bit of an exxageration. I dont think MADs and AMVs are too far apart. The effects are just different but perhaps not more difficult or complex.Zarxrax wrote:While AMVs are certainly getting more and more technical, I'm afraid the gap really isn't closing that much. The types of MADs that blew me away years ago are quite elementry by todays standards. The most technical amvs of today are probably about on the level of MADs from about 3 years ago. The MADs of today often have better motion graphics than stuff than I see on tv commercials.JCD wrote:I have to agree with Zarxrax, though I myself don't think the gap is that wide. I've enjoyed AMVs as much as MADs:
MADs had a huge gap technical editing and degsin compared to AMVs, but in my opinion that gap is almost closed by now. Some recent AMVs had a really impressive amount on technical creativity and it's definitely going into the right direction in my opinion
I hope we won't make a difference in the future anymore and refer to both as AMVs
A few weeks ago there was a big seishiga mad contest. I think about 20 videos were involved. I wouldn't hesitate for even a moment to say that at least half of them utilized better effects and motion graphics than ANY AMV that was released in the past year.
Of course, it's all in the eye of the beholder...
It's FUN, dammit!Beowulf wrote:Is anyone really moved by J-POP? To me, that shit is the worst noise humanity has ever created. I really can't articulate into words how awful I think japanese techno is. Everyone has their own tastes, and everyone has different opinions but this is just beyond that. How can you enjoy this music? HOW can ANYONE?
No offence intended, but that is bullshit.Zarxrax wrote:as far as creativity goes, [MADs] are simply UNMATCHED.
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As far as creativity, I would like to see the critics even TRY to make decent still-picture MAD.
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I think this says great deals about the level of creativity required to even make a still picture mad, when seasoned AMV creators can't even make a SINGLE ONE thats decent.
You trying to say that the effects being used in amvs back then could stand up to the likes of Azurewind, Conclude Another Style, Eternal DreamS2, or Winter Planet? (not sure those are all from 2001, but they are somewhere around there)SnhKnives wrote: I have seen MADs from 2001, and they equal to AMVs made in 2001.
Sorry, didn't mean for it to come out that way. I don't particularly mean that AMV editors lack creativity (as there is certainly some extraordinarily creative amvs out there), just that for the most part, they aren't confortable with the type of editing thats required for a video based on still images. It's not because we are stupid or anything, we just haven't learned how to do it yet (for the most part). Motion graphics are probably my favorite aspect of editing. They make my giddy. They are almost compeltely absent from AMVs though.pen-pen2002 wrote:No offence intended, but that is bullshit.Zarxrax wrote:as far as creativity goes, [MADs] are simply UNMATCHED.
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As far as creativity, I would like to see the critics even TRY to make decent still-picture MAD.
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I think this says great deals about the level of creativity required to even make a still picture mad, when seasoned AMV creators can't even make a SINGLE ONE thats decent.
I realize you are trying to argue against a stereotype here, but your focus on creativity is way off the mark.
That's like showing a group of young artists a Michelangelo and saying "bet you can't do this, you know why? Because you're not creative enough. Not only is it false, but it is downright insulting.
Your whole argument is that you tried to make a MAD and couldn't get any ideas. And from that you conclude (essentially) that every single editor in Japan is more creative than every single editor here. As if there could be no other reason that even seasoned AMV editors are hard pressed to produce a decent MAD. It's preposterous.
I can't make a MAD. Is it because I'm not creative enough? HELL NO!
Sorry about the rant, you have every right to defend the creativity of something you enjoy, but please do not do so to the detriment of other forms of expression.
Again, no offence intended, you just got me a bit riled up.
All the MADs Pianos ha showed me from 2001 (he specifcally said the year in which it was made) had no better effects than believe, and alot of the other popular videos from that time.Zarxrax wrote:You trying to say that the effects being used in amvs back then could stand up to the likes of Azurewind, Conclude Another Style, Eternal DreamS2, or Winter Planet? (not sure those are all from 2001, but they are somewhere around there)SnhKnives wrote: I have seen MADs from 2001, and they equal to AMVs made in 2001.
Unless I'm mistaken, the most complicated thing we had back then was something like Tainted Donuts, which was basically just some basic masking.
