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Post by Zarxrax » Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:40 am

I for one am appalled by all the anti-mad sentiment expressed here. It is 100% fact, FACT I say, that even the worst MAD is better than the greatest AMV. The Japanese have been carefully bred to be genetically superior to all others. Those who do not convert their opinions should be put to death for such heresy.

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Post by Otohiko » Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:42 am

Rurounikeitaro wrote: I knew either Paizuri, Otohiko, or dokool would tell me to shut up. Looks like it's dokool this time. Sorry I'm a Japan fanatic dude!
I didn't tell you to shut up! I love a good MAD as much as the next guy, and I do recognize them as a separate genre. But there's no need for a MAD > All approach :roll:
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Post by Otohiko » Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:43 am

Otohiko wrote:
I didn't tell you to shut up! I love a good MAD as much as the next guy, and I do recognize them as a separate genre. But there's no need for a MAD > All approach :roll:
Genre... doesn't quite sound right. Perhaps another classification would be more appropriate, but you get the idea :roll:
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Post by Qyot27 » Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:26 pm

Rurounikeitaro wrote:Either way, if they actually used anime instead of pictures, it would still be hotter than most of the AMV's I've seen on this site.
Needlessly obvious quote (yes, it's from the Gaijin Factory website - bolded emphasis mine):
"By far the 2 most interesting types of MADs today are Douga MADs and Seishiga MADs. Douga MADs are the equivalent of typical anime music videos. They consist of anime set to a song or music. Seishiga MADs on the other hand are "Still-picture MADs." These consist of still images (from a game, artbook, or other source) animated into video form."

And there are a few of them on a-m-v.org.



The difference, in my mind, is stylistic, and stylistic only. MADs are highly technical; AMVs are simplistic. It's not dictated by where you hail from, although MADs being from Japanese editors is almost universal. There are Japanese editors that have done straight AMVs (like Katsumi_AMVs / Paulo).
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Post by Qyot27 » Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:28 pm

Otohiko wrote:
Otohiko wrote:
I didn't tell you to shut up! I love a good MAD as much as the next guy, and I do recognize them as a separate genre. But there's no need for a MAD > All approach :roll:
Genre... doesn't quite sound right. Perhaps another classification would be more appropriate, but you get the idea :roll:
I'd use approach or type. Both MADs and AMVs are fan-produced anime-based videos with music. The difference is in the approach, largely.
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Post by Castor Troy » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:40 pm

I like mads. :D
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Post by dokool » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:53 pm

Rurounikeitaro wrote:
dokool wrote:
Rurounikeitaro wrote:Grrr.... Now I have to start learning to use my After Effects! America, Europe and any other place can be as cool as you Japan!! Here we come!!
I'm sorry, but shut up and stop splooging over MADs like they're the best thing ever to happen.

I knew either Paizuri, Otohiko, or dokool would tell me to shut up. Looks like it's dokool this time. Sorry I'm a Japan fanatic dude!
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dokool wrote:When it comes down to it, AMV vs. MAD is just a matter of different styles.
What are talking about? That's just like saying Cartoons and Anime are different styles. They are but which ones better "duh!!" Either way, if they actually used anime instead of pictures, it would still be hotter than most of the AMV's I've seen on this site.
What if I prefer, say, old-school Disney, or old-school Warner Brothers, to recent anime? Your opinion is invalid because you sound like such a goddamned fanboy. I mean, I've <i>lived</i> in Japan and my opinion isn't nearly that slanted...

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Post by Castor Troy » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:56 pm

I wanna see japanese editors make videos with the old warner bros and disney cartoons. They do have R2s of them after all. :)
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Post by Beowulf » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:30 pm

This thread is RIPE for hilarious, racist jokes.

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Post by pen-pen2002 » Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:36 pm

Consider this:

It is my understanding that many MAD editors admire AMVs and are incorporating ideas of storytelling, mood sych, and meaning into their work. Many AMV editors admire MADs and seek to incorporate advanced effects into their work.

Both comunities are moving towards each other by incorporating the strengths of the other.

I will be the first to admit I am biased because I tend to like effects that serve a purpose and alter the mood or even story of the anime (as in Whisper of the Beast for example) but I prefer AMVs because there are many genres of AMVs that do not really benefit from advanced effects. I see AMVs as being broader and incorporating more distinct styles and modes of expression.

You want effects? watch car commercials. Their effects leave ours in the dust. Most people watch AMV's for the meaning and emotional impact as well as the visual aesthetic.
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