Metal genre vs. Metal genre... Can't we all get along?

[Bardiel13]

I've seen how people put down other people's taste in music on this site and I have to say, I am absolutly disgusted. The worst cases I have seen take place within the Metal category. Since there are so many different genres, people seem to set their focus on a narrow group and blast all others.

Example:
Guy 1:Yeah, I think Atreyu would be great for a metal AMV.
Guy 2: STFU!!! Atreyu isn't metal! It's emo-nu-metal! Atreyu sucks! Deicide and Slayer FOREVER!!!

It's unbelievable how people actually want to put down other people's taste in music just becuase they simply don't like it or listen to it. I don't care much for rap music or hip-hop or pop, but I don't go around saying "RAP SUX U N00BS!!! GO TO HELL!! METAL 4EVER!!!" That's just plain immature.
It happens to be all the time. Whenever I say I like Slipknot and Nu-Metal, some random asshole will HAVE to counter-post it saying how much Slipknot and Nu-Metal sucks ass. I recall someone saying telling me that today's generation of metal sucks and 80's Metal like Twisted Sister, Guns N' Roses, and Quiet Riot kick ass compaired to them. And, hey, I even like some of those bands.
To that person I have to say this:
If you still call 80's Metal "Metal", you probably work at VH1, because everyone else calls it ARENA ROCK. The only Metal bands form the 80's still considered "Metal" are Slayer, Metallica, Judas Priest, etc.

So, please... everyone... grow the hell up and keep your rude opinions to yourself if they're not going to do anything, but hurt people's feelings who don't even know you. Hell, both of you could be huge fans of many of the same bands... and now you guys hate each other, becuase that guy mentioned that he liked Killswitch Engage and you dislike Killswitch Engage, so you called him a moron for listening to that kind of music, when both of you guys are obsessed with Slayer.

Think about that...

[bum]

I agree with you totoaly. So much that I could kiss you if you didnt life half a world away. It rarely happens in real life (where most people I know have a different taste in music to me) but I allways see it online. The most anoying ones idiots who complain about a great band (Linkin Park, Evanescence, etc) simply becaus the band has hit pop culture, gone mainstream and are finaly making some money from their music so they can, you know, eat.. Off cource they dont say that, instead they make up some other bullshit reason for bitching about them.

Example:
Guy 1:Yeah, I think Atreyu would be great for a metal AMV.
Guy 2: STFU!!! Atreyu isn't metal! It's emo-nu-metal! Atreyu sucks! Deicide and Slayer FOREVER!!!

Thats more little anoying smart asses who bitch about things like how a 4 string instrument "ISNT A FUCKING GUITAR, ITS A BASS YOU DAMN IDIOT". Honestly, most people cant see the difference and they dont give the shit. I love trance, yet I can barely tell the difference between 2 of its sub genre's, let alone all 6. Off cource theirs the 40 or so other electronica genre's to worry about.

[Flint the Dwarf]

I think the reason this most often comes up with metal is solely because of nu-metal. It's so different from traditional "metal" that of course it's going to cause friction. Most other broad genre categories don't have such a clear-cut rift in style. That's why it's called "nu-metal." And with those people that do bitch at others for liking metal (as petty as it is), I think it's because now being a metalhead means something different to the vast majority of non-metal listeners. For example, in both high school and college, when I told people I liked metal they would automatically state how keenly they admire the tenacity and brevity of the one Linkin Park song they'd heard. I would promptly bitch slap them.

This is not because I dislike Linkin Park, but because the music I've listened to and grown attached to over the past 8 years is now being overshadowed by hoards of bands that all follow the same pattern. But I'm mature enough to not make an issue of it. I don't think anyone can expect everyone to just take that sitting down. Try to look at it from our perspective.

[Brsrk]

I think the reason this most often comes up with metal is solely because of nu-metal. It's so different from traditional "metal" that of course it's going to cause friction. Most other broad genre categories don't have such a clear-cut rift in style. That's why it's called "nu-metal." And with those people that do bitch at others for liking metal (as petty as it is), I think it's because now being a metalhead means something different to the vast majority of non-metal listeners. For example, in both high school and college, when I told people I liked metal they would automatically state how keenly they admire the tenacity and brevity of the one Linkin Park song they'd heard. I would promptly bitch slap them.

This is not because I dislike Linkin Park, but because the music I've listened to and grown attached to over the past 8 years is now being overshadowed by hoards of bands that all follow the same pattern. But I'm mature enough to not make an issue of it. I don't think anyone can expect everyone to just take that sitting down. Try to look at it from our perspective.

I think I agree with your statement the most. I've only been listening to metal for 3 years, but it's grown on me to the point where I can almost classify which subgenre it is and recognise what is and isn't metal.

I also think that when someone mentions the listen to metal, someone might know of metal listeners as the local goths in town. This is the one thing that I really hate. Yes, I listen to heavy metal, yes, I wear black (shirts atleast), so what? I think that listening to this heavy music can also make some people a little nicer in certain situations. People at work think I'm one of the happiest people ever, but if they knew what went on in my private life, they'd be shocked, appauled and offended.

That's about all I have to say on this subject.

[Rozard]

People at work think I'm one of the happiest people ever, but if they knew what went on in my private life, they'd be shocked, appauled and offended.

"You make music videos out of Japanimation? FREAK!!"

[Catatonik]

Actually elitism in Metal is truly a disgusting fact.

The constant screams of sell-out to bands that actually make money, the slagging off of other genres and fans of said genres. The Tr00, Nekro and Kvlt elitism associated with black metal, or the satanism/anti-religion (especially anti-christianity)..

It pisses me off.

I am a huge fan of metal and it is my primary source of joy, and guess what, I like some Nu-metal as well, Godsmack, Dog Fashion Disco, some Korn, System of a Down.c..

I will fully admit I am a bit of a musical elitist, and I loathe fabricated, regurgitated mainstream crap, BUT while I may poke fun at people for listening to it, I try and remember..that it's just My Opinion..and thus, most of the time, the other person doesn't give a sweet fuck if I hate Linkin Park. (Which I do.)

The most amusing thing about metalheads arguing about genres is that in truth, almost no band can be listed as one pure genre anymore..diffusion and expansion baby.

[Brsrk]

People at work think I'm one of the happiest people ever, but if they knew what went on in my private life, they'd be shocked, appauled and offended.

"You make music videos out of Japanimation? FREAK!!"

Someone at work actually said that

[Bardiel13]

I will fully admit I am a bit of a musical elitist, and I loathe fabricated, regurgitated mainstream crap,

Hmm... well the thing is... that the reason that a band becomes mainstream is the fact that people actually like their music and buy their albums, so they become popular. No one chooses to be mainstream to be honest and it's not so bad. Mainstream is a GOOD thing in a sense, because their music is so good that they're well known, now. Remember, most if not all rock bands started out small.

[Draylock]

Its not metal. Its hardcore. Atreyu's music is labeled "hardcore, and emo" theres a big difference between hardcore and metal. Hardcore usually has screaming for instance.

[Kalium]

My personal answer:

Atreyu and similar groups (like Straylight Run) are references that far too few people get.