Kunicon Atlanta AMV contest

Michieru · Post by **Michieru** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:39 am

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Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:55 am

I'm lost. Why is the minimum frame rate for MPEG-1 23.97, but for MPEG-2 it's 29.97?
(And wouldn't encoding at 23.976 and setting the 3:2 pulldown flag work for MPEG-2s?)

Michieru · Post by **Michieru** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:10 pm

I have no idea. This was decided by manny I think because we plan on burning it all to a DVD and play everything off a dvd player. Might be the software there using does not accept some other frame rates. I would see what I can do. If maybe you guys can just send me a raw source and I convert them using some quicktime tools I got here. I would get more information on this as soon as I come back from burning someone at the park who thinks he can run faster than me. So for now, CIAO!

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:30 pm

Michieru wrote:I have no idea. This was decided by manny I think because we plan on burning it all to a DVD and play everything off a dvd player. Might be the software there using does not accept some other frame rates. I would see what I can do. If maybe you guys can just send me a raw source and I convert them using some quicktime tools I got here. I would get more information on this as soon as I come back from burning someone at the park who thinks he can run faster than me. So for now, CIAO!

This sounds like the blind leading the blind.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:07 pm

Minimum framerate? No maximum?
Minimum video resolutions? No maximum?

Time to submit 60fps 1080p videos!

Scintilla wrote: I'm lost. Why is the minimum frame rate for MPEG-1 23.97, but for MPEG-2 it's 29.97?
(And wouldn't encoding at 23.976 and setting the 3:2 pulldown flag work for MPEG-2s?)

There's no technical reason, unless they're using a really low-end and/or crappy decoder that doesn't understand how to properly interpret the pulldown flag.

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:54 pm

trythil wrote:
Scintilla wrote: I'm lost. Why is the minimum frame rate for MPEG-1 23.97, but for MPEG-2 it's 29.97?
(And wouldn't encoding at 23.976 and setting the 3:2 pulldown flag work for MPEG-2s?)
There's no technical reason, unless they're using a really low-end and/or crappy decoder that doesn't understand how to properly interpret the pulldown flag.

The site has it as 23.97 for MPEG-2, and 29.97 for MPEG-1, not the other way around.

Michieru · Post by **Michieru** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:09 pm

dokool wrote:
Michieru wrote:I have no idea. This was decided by manny I think because we plan on burning it all to a DVD and play everything off a dvd player. Might be the software there using does not accept some other frame rates. I would see what I can do. If maybe you guys can just send me a raw source and I convert them using some quicktime tools I got here. I would get more information on this as soon as I come back from burning someone at the park who thinks he can run faster than me. So for now, CIAO!
This sounds like the blind leading the blind.

But at least one is leading the line.to have a good amv contest which would not be some type of crime.

Michieru · Post by **Michieru** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:16 pm

Tsunami Jones wrote:
trythil wrote:
Scintilla wrote: I'm lost. Why is the minimum frame rate for MPEG-1 23.97, but for MPEG-2 it's 29.97?
(And wouldn't encoding at 23.976 and setting the 3:2 pulldown flag work for MPEG-2s?)
There's no technical reason, unless they're using a really low-end and/or crappy decoder that doesn't understand how to properly interpret the pulldown flag.
The site has it as 23.97 for MPEG-2, and 29.97 for MPEG-1, not the other way around.

Thanks for pointing that out I had just fix it sorry about that everyone.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:16 pm

Michieru wrote:
dokool wrote:
Michieru wrote:I have no idea. This was decided by manny I think because we plan on burning it all to a DVD and play everything off a dvd player. Might be the software there using does not accept some other frame rates. I would see what I can do. If maybe you guys can just send me a raw source and I convert them using some quicktime tools I got here. I would get more information on this as soon as I come back from burning someone at the park who thinks he can run faster than me. So for now, CIAO!
This sounds like the blind leading the blind.
But at least one is leading the line.to have a good amv contest which would not be some type of crime.

Unless stupidity is a crime, considering you seem to be walking into the same brick wall that Manny walks into on a daily basis.

Michieru · Post by **Michieru** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:17 pm

trythil wrote:Minimum framerate? No maximum?
Minimum video resolutions? No maximum?

Time to submit 60fps 1080p videos!

Scintilla wrote: I'm lost. Why is the minimum frame rate for MPEG-1 23.97, but for MPEG-2 it's 29.97?
(And wouldn't encoding at 23.976 and setting the 3:2 pulldown flag work for MPEG-2s?)
There's no technical reason, unless they're using a really low-end and/or crappy decoder that doesn't understand how to properly interpret the pulldown flag.

I think I am just going to scale it back down anyway

I have over 6GHZ in powerpc processing power and no I shall not begin to encode everyone's raw submissions.

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