Eliminating an AMV?

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Post by Pwolf » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:07 pm

comon man, you have to think of this as a way to improve your skills. don't take this the wrong way, but the video isn't all that great. for an mpeg2 encode, it looks like crap. the editing is dry, and needs some work. your concept looks good, but you didn't edit it well enough to make it look apealing to anyone who views it (well thats how i felt).

i know how it feels, but you have to take the critism and learn from it. make sure the next video you make is better. rewatch your videos and see what you did wrong... does it look like you did everything you could've done to it... it cannot be fixed because it's perfect? if you don't think you could've done anything else to it to make it better, then think about what people are saying about the video and see if you can see the same things... and if you think there was work that could've been done to it, figure out whats wrong... "do i need to sync this better?" "the video quality isn't all that great, i should fix that"... then take those flaws and make sure you don't repeat it in your next video.


anyway, i hope that made sense and good luck with any future videos :P


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Post by Scandia » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:04 pm

I guess I was just frustrated. I have downloaded more than one video where I could not see the footage due to codecs. I am able to play everything on Windows Media Player. I will tell that in future AMVs.

Either that, or I was just being paranoid. I was afraid people were thinking things like "Your video SUCKED because you voted for Bush" (or worse). Having had a customer accuse me earlier in the day of being a member of the Bush Clan (as much as I love them, I am certainly not one of them), I could not help it. That, and the fact that I do NOT write fanfics anymore due to people making fun of them.

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Post by downwithpants » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:44 pm

if you don't feel comfortable releasing your works to the public, perhaps you shouldn't post them here. i think you have a better chance of getting your vid local link removed if you explain that you don't want your vid to be shared with the public than getting the vid information page removed.
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Post by Scandia » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:09 pm

I want them shared. I want people to view them. I want people to know me as an AMV maker. I do not want to keep them just to myself.

HOWEVER, I do not want any flames. Constructive criticism is fine with me and I welcome it. But there is a difference between:

"You need to use better footage. It looks very pixellated and the colors are blurred"

AND

"Your AMVs suck, your costumes suck, your ideas suck, and YOU SUCK!"

I took those first 2 or 3 people giving me just one star as an example of the latter.

I know I should not let people who dislike my works discourage me from creating more. But after the horrendous experience I had with my fanfics, I get skeptical at times. Never mind the awards my costumes have received. Never mind the relatively good reception my AMVs and fan art have gotten. Never mind how many people, including my family, have gushed over the plushies I sewed myself. It's the flames to the fanfics that will stay in my mind forever :(

"is rancorous and gets her feelings hurt easily"

I do not want it removed anymore. But PLEASE think twice before flaming someone or giving bad ratings or reviews.

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Post by downwithpants » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:19 pm

no offense, but i really don't think you are ready to make your works public if you can't handle bad ratings well.
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Post by Otohiko » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:54 pm

Scandia wrote: I was just EXTREMELY discouraged by the first 3 people who downloaded it giving it just 1 star or 2.
Don't feel bad. What I consider to be my 'best AMV' had a 1.5 average rating on the first 5 or so stars it got. In fact, I wouldn't care if it stayed that way - because that was not my motivation - but incidentally, it got as far as the VCA finals. And I still know that there's quite a few people that didn't like it.

Don't let discouragement get in the way of honestly presenting your work. Honest presentation should always take precedence over public success in artistic exploits (and I hope you at least consider yourself to be involved in art). As my favorite artist would say - the more failures, the more successes.
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Post by x_rex30 » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:57 pm

Otohiko wrote:Don't feel bad. What I consider to be my 'best AMV' had a 1.5 average rating on the first 5 or so stars it got. In fact, I wouldn't care if it stayed that way - because that was not my motivation - but incidentally, it got as far as the VCA finals. And I still know that there's quite a few people that didn't like it.

Don't let discouragement get in the way of honestly presenting your work. Honest presentation should always take precedence over public success in artistic exploits (and I hope you at least consider yourself to be involved in art). As my favorite artist would say - the more failures, the more successes.
Well put Otohiko.

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Post by Castor Troy » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:22 pm

I don't pay attention to that shit.

Keep making amvs.
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Post by Beowulf » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:27 am

people are dickheads and this site is centered around competition as apposed to creativity.

getting bad feedback hurts, especially when its just an intelligent deconstruction of your video. flames are easy to dismiss as bullshit, but when you get a real review with real feedback about how your video sucks, dont dismiss it. the person took time out of their life to help you out, and even if it wasnt their intention, dont dissmiss the criticism you recieve.

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Post by Otohiko » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:33 am

Yes. If someone just says your video sucks...

...as my favorite artist would say, the reviewer is reviewing himself.

If, however, they go into any detail so as to explain why and how they thought your video sucked, best to take note. Of course, that doesn't mean that you have to follow everything or even any of what they suggest, but consider whether making an effort to appeal to this viewer would be of value to your future work. If yes, follow advice. If not, do your own thing and don't come back crying when they leave you another 'bad' review :roll:

Honestly, like Beo said, this shouldn't be a competition and it's very unfortunate so many people take it as such. Competitions themselves should be a very secondary activity for video makers - icing on the cake.

And I'd rather screw competition and have my cake instead - and eat it too :roll:
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