A Frame-Number Database...

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:08 pm

Hey why stop there?

If all the scenes are coded and cross referenced why not just make a program that rips the selected clips, organizes them by theme, matches them to the lyrics of the song off an online database and applys default transitions.

Then you hit the "Create AMV" button...

yprbest · Post by **yprbest** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:19 pm

Well, I'm pleasantly surprised that some people have managed to see some worth in the idea, though I can still see that it's a deeply flawed idea, but I didn't really think that your (pen-pen2002) dig at it was very fair; I mean, a list of frames is hardly taking away from the creativity of the piece, just making it easier to find the scenes you're looking for.

Would you also prefer for everyone to dump their editing software and reverted instead to basic linear editing, using trial and error cutting and pasting of clips with sound?

tuathaanwarrior · Post by **tuathaanwarrior** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:23 pm

In my opinion, scene selection is one of the driving factors in AMVs. Having such a database would most likely take a lot away from that. As Jasper-Isis said, if such a database existed, I know that most ppl would rather just use the scenes found in it than actually looking for their own. As was said in the first post, creators keep track of scenes they had considered using, so a database like that would end up being a list of recommended amv scenes.

Ignoring that, from a practical standpoint, what kind of descriptions would there be for the different frames that are listed. If the descriptions were too long, or selected frames were too close, how much time would you actually save? If the descriptions were too short, or the selected frames were too far, how much would it help you find the desired scene?

Also, if this was the kind of thing where people just submit what they have, how would keep descriptions consistent and how would make sure that you dont have overlap. What if Person A had something starting on frame 234, and person B had something starting on frame 235? Would having that save time? On the other extreme, what if Scene A started at frame 3, and the scene in the database started on frame 10003?

Ultimately i dont think this idea could practically be applied, and if it could, i dont think it would really help a lot.

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:17 am

yprbest wrote:but I didn't really think that your (pen-pen2002) dig at it was very fair; I mean, a list of frames is hardly taking away from the creativity of the piece, just making it easier to find the scenes you're looking for.

Oh I wasn't really trying to be negitive... just making a joke.

But in all seriousness, scene similarity is a significant problem in AMV's. I sometimes watch an AMV and think, Oh, I've never seen that scene before, very interesting. On the other hand I once downloaded 3 love hina romance videos and found a greater than 50% corolation in footage. Eva is a very long series but certain clips are used over and over and over again.

There is a real world equivilent to this idea though.
The Movie Archive

You can search all of these movies (non copyrighted) by scene. They even have editable HQ versions.

So you can type in "washer" and find creative commons videos that have a washer in them.

raibesh · Post by **raibesh** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:04 pm

You can search all of these movies (non copyrighted) by scene.

Does the Internet Archive actually have scene-specific metadata?