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Post by Noverca1is » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:54 am

okay, I am about to begin on a AMV, in a long time, basically forgot alot of knowledge and info, but reading the guides, im just making sure do I need to do something b4 beginning b4 I cry in the end.


I have my mp3 and avi footage:
sadly, they are downloaded footage :(
nonethless, im usuing footages from 9 different episodes

7 of the episodes are: (640x480), 23.98fps, divx divx Pro 5.0.2 codec compressed

the other 2 are: (640x480) 23.98fps, Xvid Xvid mpeg-4 codec

Do I need to do something special for the last 2 episodes when using its footages? or can I just ignore it and just start on it.



THANK YOU in advance

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Post by mexicanjunior » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:56 am

Noverca1is wrote:
I have my mp3 and avi footage:
sadly, they are downloaded footage :(
nonethless, im usuing footages from 9 different episodes

7 of the episodes are: (640x480), 23.98fps, divx divx Pro 5.0.2 codec compressed

the other 2 are: (640x480) 23.98fps, Xvid Xvid mpeg-4 codec

Do I need to do something special for the last 2 episodes when using its footages? or can I just ignore it and just start on it.
Convert all your eps to Huffy and convert that mp3 to wav, then it might be ok in Premiere (or whatever you are using).

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Post by Scintilla » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:25 am

And if you're using Premiere (which I think you said you were), change the videos' frame rate to 24fps when you convert the clips you need to HuffYUV.
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Post by Noverca1is » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:36 am

Huffy?
i been reading that on the form but I havent seen it in the guide... care to link me the place for detail or explain?

Anyways, im re-reading the guide, slowly im starting to comprehend, as im looking at my other AMV I've done...

I want to edit this AMV with Progressive Footage.
In order for me to do so, I need to make sure its not interlaced?

HOW DO I CHECK???!!!

So, currently I dont know that, so I will ASSUME I have interlaced footage.
But I will do "slow motion" and/or apply effects, I will need to deinterlace.

Which now copy-paste from the guide:
Deinterlacing can be good or bad depending on the method and, unfortunately, the method used by one of the most popular programs - Premiere - is pretty ugly. In fact, most stock deinterlacing features in editing programs are pretty crap so, during these parts, your video will look sub-standard. Also, if you need to edit a still in photoshop or use a mouth section for lip-synch you need to get sections that aren't interlaced otherwise things can get really messy.
So back to square one, I want it progressive, its mor simple, less hassle.. only hassle is geting it to progressive if its not progressive to begin with.

NOW I NEED INFO ON "IVTC ".
where to download it or WHAT IS IT?

Once using the program, all my footage becomes 23.976 (1% less)
One thing I will point out, however, is that running IVTC on your footage will make it 23.976fps. If you are using Vegas video this is not a problem... if you are using Adobe Premiere however, it is a big problem Premiere cannot easily edit 23.976 fps and this is a very annoying truth. It can edit in 23.98fps but this mode has all sorts of synch issues and the final output is useless to everyone. Thankfully you can change it to 24fps and premiere can edit 24fps fine so it's not all bad - it just requires a little more preparation in advance.
So, now I would assume, without IVTC, can I just start the project with:

Editing Mode: "Video For Window"
Timebase: 24FPS
Frame Size: 640x480
P.A.R : square pixel (verticle = 4:3)
Fields: Progressive
Display Format; 24 fps timecode
Title safe area: default (20/20 H/V)
Action Safe Area: default (20/20 H/V)

Audio:
44100hz
Howeve, as what the guide says, Im not rendering, saving, or emporting with the audio.
After im done with the entire visual aspect, export it, re-attach the avi which is now a 29.97, put the audio in, which is already that same info, export save, THE END...


am I right or someone care to tell me where I went wrong?

hey im learning here!

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Post by Noverca1is » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:40 am

just in case info.

General
Editing mode: Video for Windows
Timebase: 24.00 fps

Video Settings
Frame size: 640h 480v (1.000)
Frame rate: 24.00 frames/second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)
Color depth: Millions of colors
Quality: 100 (out of 100)
Fields: No Fields (Progressive Scan)

Audio Settings
Sample rate: 44100 samples/second

Recorder
DV/IEEE1394 Capture

Video Rendering
DivX Pro 5.0.2 Codec
Color depth: Millions of colors

Default Sequence
Total video tracks: 3
Master track type: Stereo
Mono tracks: 0
Stereo tracks: 3
5.1 tracks: 0
Submix mono tracks: 0
Submix stereo tracks: 0
Submix 5.1 tracks: 0

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Post by madbunny » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:06 am

If you were working with DVD footage then all the IVTC stuff would (possibly) come into play. Your video is most likely NOT interlaced.

As you are already working with footage that's been 'treated' so to speak, you won't need to do that. Instead you'll need to deal with the fact that the stuff that you have is compressed and probably has a lot of noise in it.

I can't really stress enough, that if you can, you SHOULD GET OR RENT the disks... Likewise, try to find buy, or borrow the cd with the song that you want. Just remember the mantra "garbage in... garbage out"

If you can't find what you want anywhere, you may with to consider using an alternative anime. Having a higher quality video will speak volumes about you, whereas simply using the latest and greatest show to hit the net says something else entirely.

Take your stuff, run it through vdub, clean the heck out of it, kill the subs, and save it as something lossless like huffy. If you save to yet another compressed file you're just stacking your problems. Be prepared for this to eat up a lot of hard drive space.
Edit this.

Don't use DIVX in premiere. Divx bites badly for this, and your program will hate you. Your program will let you know that it hates you by crashing. A lot. Instead try one of the Mjpeg codecs mentioned in the guides.
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Post by Noverca1is » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:51 am

well, I cant rip dvd....since I dont have a dvd-cdr
so im left with downloads...

not even a dvd rom to use fraps to record it...

as far as my mp3 are concerned, all are 320kbps or 192kbps.
some are also ogg
so im not concerned with my audio.

"whereas simply using the latest and greatest show to hit the net says something else entirely. "

hahaha, sry had to laugh... um, im not the cartoon network anime nor the old school sci fi saturday morning anime (although I miss A-ko).
I have stuff of Last exiled, getbackerz, Touch, Legend of Basara, DNAngle, Bleach.
And lots of non anime (suicide club, battle royale, ichi the killer, ju-on, ikiria, loads of japan horror and starting italian horror and, gasp, snuff-like film, b-films... TOXIC AVENGER!!! hehheheheh.....)
will be making a Music Video of "Ong Bak", just came out in the U.S finally, hope that guy doesnt get bought by Hollywood!..

ANYWAYS:!!!!!!

like i said? huffy what? explain, link???
Vdub?

I dont know nothing about those programs which I will assume, 3rd party programs!

give me info on this items pls or links so I can learn about it (perferably guide links or FAQs)
HD space isnt much of a concern :)



thank you for the 411 on DIVX + premiere! Nor ever use Honestech codec!!!!!! squishy squishy!!
Mjpeg? another item i dont know...

im walking in here as a total newbie reading alot of information and trying to grasp it... im about to go insane soon.

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Post by madbunny » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:50 am

All of the information that you are asking for is available through either the guides on this site:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/
The software you need:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... mvapp.html

The official adobe site:
http://www.adobe.com/support/training.html
The classroom in a book series is strongly reccomended. I've used and reccomended it with great success.
http://www.adobe.com/misc/books.html

If you've got the money for premiere, then you should be able to scrape enough together for a cheap dvd drive
I've seen them sell for as little as 40.00

Additionally, you can use the search function at the top of the forum as most of the questions that you mentioned have been covered countless times.
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Post by Noverca1is » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:59 pm

still cant find info on Huffy whatever.

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Post by Scintilla » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:13 pm

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