New DVD Copyright Protection

Inuyasha the 3rd · Post by **Inuyasha the 3rd** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:41 pm

Copy Protection = Useless

Chances are this copy protection thing will be cracked within 5 months or 2 years after release.

So...im not worried.

-AB_the_3rd

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:06 pm

I've heard a rumor that 'RipGuard' works by changing the pitting so that you get lots of errors at data-speed, but it works just fine at real-time playback.

bum · Post by **bum** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:17 am

And that's supose to stop pirates? The only form of copy protection that'l ever work is cheaper dvd's.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:40 pm

Animeboy_the_3rd wrote:Copy Protection = Useless

Chances are this copy protection thing will be cracked within 5 months or 2 years after release.

So...im not worried.

-AB_the_3rd

More like 2 days.

Zero1 · Post by **Zero1** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:02 pm

If it's playable, it's crackable.

Hackers will always exist, and while industry may be one step ahead with new copy protection, they are only one step ahead and it will soon be rendered useless.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:30 pm

Exactly. If it can be viewed or heard via a computer, it can be captured. Furthermore, it can be captured without loss. The only problem is how.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:01 pm

I guess the only remaining solution to save the DVD industry is making the discs unplayable

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:40 pm

What the hell?? Them doing that is stupid. Theres a lot of addictive video editors that want to mess with footage. If they were actually able to make the copy write protection 100% guaranteed to work, people like me who get more of a need to buy anime and stuff for source footage will have less of a need to get them. I'll just try to watch everything from tv or borrow something from a friend if they were that desperate

Zero1 · Post by **Zero1** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:57 am

Kalium wrote:Exactly. If it can be viewed or heard via a computer, it can be captured. Furthermore, it can be captured without loss. The only problem is how.

Well I didn't have capturing in mind, but it's a viable option, the only thing with that though is that you won't be able to use your vobs and avs script method which was an ass saver for many I would assume. Also it would be a real time job to perform, so it's no better than ripping the disc at playback speed as you heard might have to happen.

I was thinking more along the lines of reverse engineering, obviously DVD players, the software or whatever will have some sort of engine that "unlocks" the disc for playback, it's a case of studying the technologies used and implementing it in something like Smart ripper.

But as for the playback speed only method, I wonder how and if it will affect forward seeking on DVD players (that's if the speed actually changes, I'm guessing its the laser that moves ourward more rather than the spindle speed increasing)

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:20 am

Ripping is a form of lossless capture.