Well, just so you know, like it though I may, I withdraw any claim to it... I guess if this is the only other one Songbird listed among her top picks...
...but gee, I for one never expected there to be so many competing interests in track selection!
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Otohiko
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Hehe, wow, everyone wants that segment now!
Well, just so you know, like it though I may, I withdraw any claim to it... I guess if this is the only other one Songbird listed among her top picks...
...but gee, I for one never expected there to be so many competing interests in track selection!
Well, just so you know, like it though I may, I withdraw any claim to it... I guess if this is the only other one Songbird listed among her top picks...
...but gee, I for one never expected there to be so many competing interests in track selection!
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Otohiko
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Although I must note that Toji Fujiwara has the same picks there... and bum's are fairly close.
Perhaps what we can/should try to do is toss some ideas around and see if one of you finds something else they like. Either that, or Pen-Pen can just excercise his managerial right and just pick someone
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I should have a full-length beta by tonight; I laid everything out story-wise, though I'm sure there's still a lot to do in editing (I also haven't cropped many things yet).
Since I have a whole month free after this, I'm pretty much completely sure that, footage allowing, I will take on another track here.
I promise not to bid on the 2nd track and 8:17 though - any others you DON'T want me to be eyeing? 
Perhaps what we can/should try to do is toss some ideas around and see if one of you finds something else they like. Either that, or Pen-Pen can just excercise his managerial right and just pick someone
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I should have a full-length beta by tonight; I laid everything out story-wise, though I'm sure there's still a lot to do in editing (I also haven't cropped many things yet).
Since I have a whole month free after this, I'm pretty much completely sure that, footage allowing, I will take on another track here.
I promise not to bid on the 2nd track and 8:17 though - any others you DON'T want me to be eyeing? The Birds are using humanity in order to throw something terrifying at this green pig. And then what happens to us all later, that’s simply not important to them…
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Songbird21
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I know that. Lol.Otohiko wrote:Although I must note that Toji Fujiwara has the same picks there... and bum's are fairly close.
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jasper-isis
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Wow, Oto, you are FAST! It's going to take me a while to get started because I still have to collect my source AND watch it. T__T
Pen-pen:
Here's my idea for the "journey reprise" section. It is essentially the last section before the credits come in, so I think the theme I'll go for is "Self-Actualization" - to develop or achieve one's full potential. If you listen to the section (which starts at 14:32) you'll notice that the melody progressively rises higher and higher, which would be perfect for such a theme.
I'll use the anime Kaleido Star, as it clearly follows the main character, Sora, in her trials and difficulties, as well as personal growth, as she works her way to stardom at the circus called Kaleido Stage. The show has stunning visuals and an easily conveyed message that could potentially bring the project to a spectacular finish.
The only problem I foresee starts at 15:48, where the music reverts back to an earlier "style." Coming from the previous section, it would be a bit anti-climatic, AMV-wise. I would prefer to bring my segment to a climax before 15:48, rather than dragging it on for another 35 seconds. What do you think should be done to resolve this issue?
My suggestion would be to start the credits right there. We could have Sora, on the trapeze, swing into 15:48 while the credit words/pictures start flying into view around her. Footage from Kaleido Star would then provide a background for the credits as more info comes flying in and out. Then at 16:23 we transition into the last segment, which wraps up the whole video as Projekct: Life.
I think this is a feasible idea, especially since the last section, which is only 20 seconds long, is probably not long enough to display credits for all the editors AND wrap up the project. DrngdKreationz sounds like a good candidate for editing the flying credits section. Pen-pen, I know I'm kind of encroaching on that last section that you wanted, but these are just suggestions and you're free to choose whichever option you like. Just let me know what you think. xP
Some more inquiries:
Have we got a CD copy of the song in WAV format?
What fps are we using?
I plan to have all the Kaleido Star season 1 DVDs by the beginning of January, and I'll probably begin to edit before then.
Pen-pen:
Here's my idea for the "journey reprise" section. It is essentially the last section before the credits come in, so I think the theme I'll go for is "Self-Actualization" - to develop or achieve one's full potential. If you listen to the section (which starts at 14:32) you'll notice that the melody progressively rises higher and higher, which would be perfect for such a theme.
I'll use the anime Kaleido Star, as it clearly follows the main character, Sora, in her trials and difficulties, as well as personal growth, as she works her way to stardom at the circus called Kaleido Stage. The show has stunning visuals and an easily conveyed message that could potentially bring the project to a spectacular finish.
The only problem I foresee starts at 15:48, where the music reverts back to an earlier "style." Coming from the previous section, it would be a bit anti-climatic, AMV-wise. I would prefer to bring my segment to a climax before 15:48, rather than dragging it on for another 35 seconds. What do you think should be done to resolve this issue?
My suggestion would be to start the credits right there. We could have Sora, on the trapeze, swing into 15:48 while the credit words/pictures start flying into view around her. Footage from Kaleido Star would then provide a background for the credits as more info comes flying in and out. Then at 16:23 we transition into the last segment, which wraps up the whole video as Projekct: Life.
I think this is a feasible idea, especially since the last section, which is only 20 seconds long, is probably not long enough to display credits for all the editors AND wrap up the project. DrngdKreationz sounds like a good candidate for editing the flying credits section. Pen-pen, I know I'm kind of encroaching on that last section that you wanted, but these are just suggestions and you're free to choose whichever option you like. Just let me know what you think. xP
Some more inquiries:
Have we got a CD copy of the song in WAV format?
What fps are we using?
I plan to have all the Kaleido Star season 1 DVDs by the beginning of January, and I'll probably begin to edit before then.
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Otohiko
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The FPS was agreed at 24 from what I remember before.
Sounds like a good idea, knowing Kaleido Star, you can certainly get the right kind of content out of there. Thematically, all good.
Provided I don't get some really embarassing video problem due to resizing here (possible), I should have the first beta in a little while.
If Pen-Pen sets up an FTP, I can put it on there. Otherwise, I can probably set up my own, though it won't be on all the time (I can't really keep my PC on constantly).
If you'd like to see the beta, PM me; when it's done, I'll put it up and tell you how you can download it.
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Update:
Vieweable Beta v0.2 available - now how do I get it to teh project members?
...phew, you might think it's quick, but at 10 hours of editing, this is actually well above my average editing time for 2 minutes of video (I know, I'm a pathetically basic editor). Luckily, I have a sense that it's not nearly finished at all, and I hope to get it up ASAP to get important feedback, particularly technically.
"Plot"-wise, I think it's set up fairly straightforwardly:
:00 -Birth
:07 - Early Childhood (w/baby pictures to boot - should I make them black and white?)
:24 - Youth/Peace/Nature
:38 - Nightmare/Destruction/Terrible future
1:02 - Back to Youth/Love transitioning at ~1:14 to the Accident,
1:24 - Hospital, Death, flying away from ~1:32
1:41 - Longing to return to life
1:48 - Gift of life/Revival
I edited up to 1:57 (and can stretch it a bit longer), and there's a nice near-static zooming face shot at the end to make a smooth transition to the next track.
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Update 2: I now have a Beta on Songbird's ftp; since I'd mostly like to keep it within the project, PM me for the latest link.
I'm stopping work on the track pending feedback, for now...
Sounds like a good idea, knowing Kaleido Star, you can certainly get the right kind of content out of there. Thematically, all good.
Provided I don't get some really embarassing video problem due to resizing here (possible), I should have the first beta in a little while.
If Pen-Pen sets up an FTP, I can put it on there. Otherwise, I can probably set up my own, though it won't be on all the time (I can't really keep my PC on constantly).
If you'd like to see the beta, PM me; when it's done, I'll put it up and tell you how you can download it.
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Update:
Vieweable Beta v0.2 available - now how do I get it to teh project members?
...phew, you might think it's quick, but at 10 hours of editing, this is actually well above my average editing time for 2 minutes of video (I know, I'm a pathetically basic editor). Luckily, I have a sense that it's not nearly finished at all, and I hope to get it up ASAP to get important feedback, particularly technically.
"Plot"-wise, I think it's set up fairly straightforwardly:
:00 -Birth
:07 - Early Childhood (w/baby pictures to boot - should I make them black and white?)
:24 - Youth/Peace/Nature
:38 - Nightmare/Destruction/Terrible future
1:02 - Back to Youth/Love transitioning at ~1:14 to the Accident,
1:24 - Hospital, Death, flying away from ~1:32
1:41 - Longing to return to life
1:48 - Gift of life/Revival
I edited up to 1:57 (and can stretch it a bit longer), and there's a nice near-static zooming face shot at the end to make a smooth transition to the next track.
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Update 2: I now have a Beta on Songbird's ftp; since I'd mostly like to keep it within the project, PM me for the latest link.
I'm stopping work on the track pending feedback, for now...
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Otohiko
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Another good bit of news! My brother (registred here as cless) may want to do a track (also, footage-allowing), and he is only really interested in:
12:50-14:33 Gituar Solo
I don't think anyone called this one yet. He still has exams, but he may be able to start in the next couple of weeks; so, keep him in mind for that slot, if anything...
He hasn't made AMV's as yet, but he's already a much better video editor than I am.
12:50-14:33 Gituar Solo
I don't think anyone called this one yet. He still has exams, but he may be able to start in the next couple of weeks; so, keep him in mind for that slot, if anything...
He hasn't made AMV's as yet, but he's already a much better video editor than I am.
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pen-pen2002
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Lots of editors, lots of sections, to much overlap... 
I'll get it figured out one way or another.
I have an FTP set up, this one is only for the next two weeks untill I can get a more reliable one set up but it will give people a chance to get used to the structure.
132.161.142.5
user: Instrumentality
Pass: life
Oto: The first 38 seconds of that was awesome, just perfect. It totally blew me away. Although the first shot is really in your face and sudden. It might not be a bad idea to soften that or even take it out and have the first cry come out in darkness (this is a tecniqe seen in movies a lot.) After that though it was amazing. The nightmare started out well, although it could use some work. Some of the clips felt long especially in areas where the music is very dense. This is particularly noticable in the last clip, perhaps some internal beatsynching would work well. The music changes suddenly but it would be nice if you could soften the transition somehow, maybe having her wake up since this is supposed to be a vision. I really like the romance part, the scenes are well chosen and the flow is excelent. At the death there are again some really dense sections of music that feel unfufilled. Anyways, I know this is a beta so I don't want to tear it apert but I think with some reworking of the denser sections we've got an awesome section on our hands.
1:30 in the morning, track request listing will have to wait till tomarrow.
I'll get it figured out one way or another.I have an FTP set up, this one is only for the next two weeks untill I can get a more reliable one set up but it will give people a chance to get used to the structure.
132.161.142.5
user: Instrumentality
Pass: life
Oto: The first 38 seconds of that was awesome, just perfect. It totally blew me away. Although the first shot is really in your face and sudden. It might not be a bad idea to soften that or even take it out and have the first cry come out in darkness (this is a tecniqe seen in movies a lot.) After that though it was amazing. The nightmare started out well, although it could use some work. Some of the clips felt long especially in areas where the music is very dense. This is particularly noticable in the last clip, perhaps some internal beatsynching would work well. The music changes suddenly but it would be nice if you could soften the transition somehow, maybe having her wake up since this is supposed to be a vision. I really like the romance part, the scenes are well chosen and the flow is excelent. At the death there are again some really dense sections of music that feel unfufilled. Anyways, I know this is a beta so I don't want to tear it apert but I think with some reworking of the denser sections we've got an awesome section on our hands.
1:30 in the morning, track request listing will have to wait till tomarrow.
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Otohiko
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It's not so much an editing standard as a commitment; but certainly, there's no wrong in leaving something that you don't have ideas for.
Oh well, see you around
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Pen-Pen
Thanks, actually I'm glad you're fine with the first section as that's what concerned me primarily (it either worked, or it didn't), I know full-well that the rest probably requires additional work.
I'm going to look into introducing more scenes in these 'dense' sections, it would probably work out alright (although I'm gonna have to rip some more footage). The only one I probably wouldn't be able to add more content into is 1:02~1:14 (I used up most of the scene, and putting in anything else there would break up the logical flow); for the rest there's either more in the same scenes left to work with, or I could get away with putting in new, semi-unrelated footage.
Anyways, I'll get on these two main concern sections shortly.
[Pen-Pen quickly zeroing in on so-so sections - if this is like with Ararat, it could only mean good things ]
Oh well, see you around
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Pen-Pen
Thanks, actually I'm glad you're fine with the first section as that's what concerned me primarily (it either worked, or it didn't), I know full-well that the rest probably requires additional work.
I'm going to look into introducing more scenes in these 'dense' sections, it would probably work out alright (although I'm gonna have to rip some more footage). The only one I probably wouldn't be able to add more content into is 1:02~1:14 (I used up most of the scene, and putting in anything else there would break up the logical flow); for the rest there's either more in the same scenes left to work with, or I could get away with putting in new, semi-unrelated footage.
Anyways, I'll get on these two main concern sections shortly.
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