ARGH I dunno WTF is goin on!! [MPEG Decoding Issue]

Kajino Rei · Post by **Kajino Rei** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:14 pm

Truthfully I don't know what the heck this "software-scaling" is or if it's indeed real but did a search anyways and found this: http://www.microsoft.com/applicationcen ... /overview/
All the other sites I entered said basically the same thing:
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=sof ... 1&.intl=us
http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?un=143043&s=6

Don't know about this "software-scaling" thing...

SS5_Majin_Bebi · Post by **SS5_Majin_Bebi** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:29 pm

Kajino Rei wrote:Truthfully I don't know what the heck this "software-scaling" is or if it's indeed real but did a search anyways and found this: http://www.microsoft.com/applicationcen ... /overview/
All the other sites I entered said basically the same thing:
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=sof ... 1&.intl=us
http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?un=143043&s=6

Don't know about this "software-scaling" thing...

Ok, I already said trythil said it was software scaling. No idea what it is, but he sounded like he knew what he was on about.

all you pointed me in the direction of was some server things and a product description.

No offense, but currently you've been less than helpful and Tryth is the only person who has been able to say anything with any certainty. ;?

Kajino Rei · Post by **Kajino Rei** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:36 pm

Ok, I already said trythil said it was software scaling. No idea what it is, but he sounded like he knew what he was on about.

all you pointed me in the direction of was some server things and a product description.

No offense, but currently you've been less than helpful and Tryth is the only person who has been able to say anything with any certainty. ;?

No offense taken, just wanted to point out that most of the hits I got from my search pointed in that direction. Just because a person sounds knowledgeable doesn't mean that's the case.
No offense to this trythil or you meant.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:52 am

Kajino Rei wrote:
Ok, I already said trythil said it was software scaling. No idea what it is, but he sounded like he knew what he was on about.

all you pointed me in the direction of was some server things and a product description. :?

No offense, but currently you've been less than helpful and Tryth is the only person who has been able to say anything with any certainty. ;?
No offense taken, just wanted to point out that most of the hits I got from my search pointed in that direction. Just because a person sounds knowledgeable doesn't mean that's the case.
No offense to this trythil or you meant.

:roll:

It's when you implement scaling algorithms (no, not scaling up to meet demand, but scaling video) without hardware acceleration. Hence, software scaler.

Don't let Google do your thinking. I know the temptation is huge but it doesn't always work.

Oftentimes, people will implement simple, fast resizers in software because, well, they're simple and fast. However, they look bad.

Hardware-accelerated scaling doesn't look better by virtue of being hardware-accelerated; it's because developers have more power to throw at the problem of scaling.

This is my theory. Empirical evidence supports it: every time I've seen this problem occur, it's been because something has screwed with the scaler settings.

If you have a better one, give it. Now.

Kajino Rei · Post by **Kajino Rei** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:45 am

trythil

It's when you implement scaling algorithms (no, not scaling up to meet demand, but scaling video) without hardware acceleration. Hence, software scaler.

Ah.

Don't let Google do your thinking. I know the temptation is huge but it doesn't always work.

Wouldn't dream of it.

Oftentimes, people will implement simple, fast resizers in software because, well, they're simple and fast. However, they look bad.

Yes, I've seen that before.

Hardware-accelerated scaling doesn't look better by virtue of being hardware-accelerated; it's because developers have more power to throw at the problem of scaling.

This is my theory. Empirical evidence supports it: every time I've seen this problem occur, it's been because something has screwed with the scaler settings.

Yeah, I guess that's true.
Sadly I've forgoten Bebi's problem at this instant.
*Searches original page*
Ok, playback problems. Well, I don't have ffdshow or XviD, so I can't comment on problems there.
Tried doing what he did (clicking a file, and drag the " sequence bar" to the end of the playing bar, so that it's in the last few seconds of video) but didn't have the problem.
Ahem going back to the software scaling: So you're saying this software scaling modified the files meta-data and adjusted their video frame rate which afected the video "streaming" to the point were it's causing problems in many or all of the AMV that Bebi is trying to watch.
Or something along those lines (maybe?).
Eh, I got lost in my own interpretation.
Anyways I think you're right but I'm still wondering what caused this (besides the software scaling).
My apologies for this response but I'm stressed and sleppy thus my brain isn't working.
Got half a mind to delete this response...

If you have a better one, give it. Now.

Why is that people get offended when I didn't mean to?
No harm meant.

Good luck Bebi with resolving this problem, it's a bitch.

SS5_Majin_Bebi · Post by **SS5_Majin_Bebi** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:08 am

Kajino Rei wrote:trythil
It's when you implement scaling algorithms (no, not scaling up to meet demand, but scaling video) without hardware acceleration. Hence, software scaler.
Ah.
Don't let Google do your thinking. I know the temptation is huge but it doesn't always work.
Wouldn't dream of it.
Oftentimes, people will implement simple, fast resizers in software because, well, they're simple and fast. However, they look bad.
Yes, I've seen that before.
Hardware-accelerated scaling doesn't look better by virtue of being hardware-accelerated; it's because developers have more power to throw at the problem of scaling.

This is my theory. Empirical evidence supports it: every time I've seen this problem occur, it's been because something has screwed with the scaler settings.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Sadly I've forgoten Bebi's problem at this instant.
*Searches original page*
Ok, playback problems. Well, I don't have ffdshow or XviD, so I can't comment on problems there.
Tried doing what he did (clicking a file, and drag the " sequence bar" to the end of the playing bar, so that it's in the last few seconds of video) but didn't have the problem.
Ahem going back to the software scaling: So you're saying this software scaling modified the files meta-data and adjusted their video frame rate which afected the video "streaming" to the point were it's causing problems in many or all of the AMV that Bebi is trying to watch.
Or something along those lines (maybe?).
Eh, I got lost in my own interpretation.
Anyways I think you're right but I'm still wondering what caused this (besides the software scaling).
My apologies for this response but I'm stressed and sleppy thus my brain isn't working.
Got half a mind to delete this response...
If you have a better one, give it. Now.
Why is that people get offended when I didn't mean to?
No harm meant.

Good luck Bebi with resolving this problem, it's a bitch.

Its got nothing to do with the FRAMERATE!! GOD!!

Also the I decrease the playing time of one video so that it quickly skips to the NEXT video, which is what evidently causes the problem. I do this so I don't have to sit through 3 minuts of an AMV I've seen 50 billion times before (I use my "Perchance To Dream" video which is scheduled to play immediately before my "Pure Fan Service" video, which displays the problem most prominently.)

And the problem is the RENDERING!! The framerate hasn't altered a single bit. the VIDEO STREAM is rendering incorrectly for some reason, thus showing the video as a collection of sharp-edged square pixels of about 1mm wide-ish. Thsu I can still SEE the video fine, it just looks like an animated cut-sequence off an old-school video game.

Kajino Rei · Post by **Kajino Rei** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:14 am

Bebi...
Just mentioned the framerate plus I did mention the streaming.
Eh, I give up.
Go ask trythil, he's software-scaling god.
Trythil, go kill Bebi's computer or something.

But at least my question got answered, YOU may have done something not the comp.
This is why I leave most of the "specs"(whichever) of my computer alone.

Trythil, how does he solve this...

badmartialarts · Post by **badmartialarts** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:03 pm

I have WMP10 now, so I don't know if an upgrade to it would help, or hurt...

Kajino Rei · Post by **Kajino Rei** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:18 pm

Sousaphonist

I have WMP10 now, so I don't know if an upgrade to it would help, or hurt...

Me too and dare I say it's a great upgrade.
No more multi-players for me now (except for Divx and the like).