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Fan Serivce killed the show?

Post by Vlad86 » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:09 am

I don't know about anyone else, but it's kind of upsetting when a show has a fairly good plot going, but is usually too short and the plot ends up getting choked by fan service. Not to say that one should get rid of all the fan service ( :oops: ) but I wish they'd make it longer to realize the developing plot more.
It is possible for shows with a good amount of fan service to last a good amount of episodes. (Ranma 1/2, Mahoromatic)

The shows that I'm specifically addressing (because I've seen the recently) are Cosplay Complex, Jungle de Ikou, and Amazing Nurse Nanako.

Cosplay Comlpex was good and funny, with plenty of fan service, but just as things were starting to get interesting (*spoilers* Yes I'm too lazy to do a tag. When another character is introduced (it's been a few months) and she has a similar cotume shapeshiter buny girl thing, and all the suspicions of the main character being a great legendary person, and then poof, it ends. Why? Nothing was resolved!)

Jungle de Ikou also had some fanservice, but it wasn't quite as bad as Cosplay Complex. JDI started out midly interesting, got silly at points (anyone see Ahem do "the dance"? Silly and creepy all in one package.) adn finally at teh end really hinted at posilble future exploits. Then, it just up and ended. I was starting to like it too. Mii was almost an anti-magic girl (you can have an anti-hero, so why not?), and the talk that there are other legends out there meaning the possibility, if not leaving it wide open, for a continuation which has yet to see the light of day. (though I heard rumors that a TV series may be made, but don't get your hopes up)

Amazing Nurse Nanako had more fanservice than JDI, but less than Cosplay Complex (are newer shows desensitizing us? :shock: ). The show of course spent time being silly and reveling in it's own silliness for a good amoiunt of time, but out of the the three titles, this one had a much darker background story. The theme was genetic engineering and the aim for immortality. (*spoilers* However when this series got serious, it was actually SAD. Yes, a title that has a reputation for bouncing flesh, was actually tear jerking at parts. Nanako, though lighthearted and sometimes dimwittec, has a deep saddening past. Nanako is in fact a clone, the third clone to be precise. The original Nanako was born in 1920. When she turned 20 she became strangely ill and died. The current head of the Ogami family at that time somehow managed to clone her (in 1941?). However that clone too died at teh age of 20. A second clone was born in 1962, and she met with Kyoji (the current Dr. Ogami when the series opens up) when she was 16 and he 7 in 1978. he becomes emotionally attatched to her (she was very kind, almost an entirely different personality from the current Nanako), but she too dies at the age of 20. Kyoji had made a promise to cure her, but it's sad to see him begging his dad to help when Nanako's body is being put into the hearse. At the end of the series (longest of the three at 6 eps) Kyoji fianlly manages to whip up some gentic "cure" but the series ends before you see if it worked (the current Nanako is 16). But things are left open, one character escapes with data that could seriously hurt the both the Vatican and the U.S. reputations(they were working together on a blackops project with an alien being. The U.S. wanting to create biological weapons and the Vatican wanting to clone Jesus.) saying "Now all I need to find is a buyer". the last we see of Kyoji, Nanako, and friends is them being sent to research duties on the Skylab space station.)

Plenty of possible ways to continue, but ti just ends :cry:
(and yes, I just finished watching Nanako not too long ago, hence it being the most freash in my memory of the the three titles)


Did anyone else feel the same way? That they'd like to see more of these series, hopefully fleshing them out enough to give a more satisfiying end?
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Post by Kajino Rei » Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:55 am

Yes, yes.
Great topic Vlad, sadly I don't have my initial response (writing it in word).

But I do think that too much fan service and not enough substance mar a lot of anime.
Trying to cover up the fact that the anime isn't good with fan service is a widely use tactic to deviate the viewers attention from said fact.
A tactic that more often than not fails tremendously and frankly is a little insulting.

Well I have to go now but I'll post the original later.

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Post by OtakuMegane » Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:46 pm

Amazing Nurse Nanako was fun to watch the first or second time, but I didn't really like it much beyond that. Cosplay Complex was going quite well, and yeah, it stops. My friend said at the end "That's it?". Adding in 2-3 more episodes to conclude things better would have been good.

Jungle de Ikou was good enough they could actually turn it into a TV series. There's enough potential for that, and it was a good series as is, didn't even end too abruptly. While it has less fanservice than some others, I think they almost went more of the insanity of the fanservice than quantity.
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Post by Kajino Rei » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:26 pm

Well I haven’t seen these anime titles but other anime have been marred by too much fan service and not enough of anything else.
To me fan service is not needed, not on an animation level but a more personal one (I don’t want/need to see girl’s panties).
Then again in real life one sees underwear so why not in anime.
The point is that if there’s going to be fan service then it should be like a “bonus” or something.
Because it’s a service, so says the name but if the anime doesn’t need it then why put it?
I mean can you imagine CCS with fan service? :shock: Just wrong.
Fan service cannot carry a whole anime.
:? I would prefer more substance, less crap.
Basically some creators put the panty shots (among others) because they know that their creation lacks something and they need correct it.

Kami forbid they actually try to make the anime better. :roll:
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Post by Zarxrax » Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:04 pm

Are you joking dude? You thought those shows actually had a plot, and it was starting to get interesting? The entire POINT of those shows is the fanservice. If anything, the "plot" gets in the way of the fanservice.
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Post by Scintilla » Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:02 pm

Personally, I think Onegai Teacher had a pretty good plot, but could have used less service (one reason I like the manga better).

Onegai Twins is a different story though. :?
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Post by bum » Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:33 pm

najica : blitz tactics. its fan service with style (and a pair of najica panties with the collectors edition box, seriosly ). had a damn awsome ending though. it was so tence i was literaly biting my thumb as i watched it.

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Post by Vlad86 » Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:07 am

Zarxrax wrote:Are you joking dude? You thought those shows actually had a plot, and it was starting to get interesting? The entire POINT of those shows is the fanservice. If anything, the "plot" gets in the way of the fanservice.
It's called ecchi. It's the gateway drug to hentai.
You're just biased becuase you made a fanservice video with those :P :lol: (which I have....>.>)


Yes, fan service was the initial point and the titles were marketed as such, but the did indeed have a story. Maybe not as strong as others, but a story that was midly interesting is still present.

Now Cosplay Complex had the least story and the most fanservice, but with JDI, I could really see it turn into a wacky anti-magic girl gotta beat them all sorta thing. And yes that could be quite entertaining and funny, after all the OVA is a comedy.
As for Nanako, it did what Trigun did, just with bouncing breasts. The swithching back and forth between comedic bits and dead serious parts.


I don't know, maybe I'm just looking too deep into these....
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Post by DTJB » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:13 pm

Haven't seen any of them, but I know that all three shows you mentioned are OVAs, which are usually too short by nature. So I don't think fan service had anything to do which ending any of these too quickly.
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Post by someperson » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:32 pm

I really don't care for fanservice. I don't recall it killing any shows, for me. But it nearly has.
(Before I was into anime) I was channel surfing and I came across Cowboy Bebop. I saw Faye in her skimpy yellow outift and automatically assumed that Bebop was a hentai (once again, this was before I knew anything about anime).
I almost stopped watching Texchnolyze due to the sex scene and Doc's dislike for clothes.
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