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Post by Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] » Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:00 pm

yay i was begining to worry about that myself.


I beleive you can refrence down with pants website for all the latest monologues. maybe everyone should just make sure those are their finals, and then you can take them all from there. make your life easier no?
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Post by jasper-isis » Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:07 am

Wahoo! Looks like Animasia is back in business. 8)
rose4emily wrote:A) Convert to .wav and .png
B) Use script to add/remove frames if needed from framelist to match framerate
C) Re-assemble each video with its monologue and bumper.
D) Save lossless versions to CD (at least the ones that will fit).
D) Encode as MPEG1, MPEG2, and MPEG4 (XviD)
E) Save compressed versions to CD.
F) Use AVIMerge to join the now homogenously encoded segments into the two longer files, in the MPEG1, MPEG2, and MPEG4 encodings.
Oh I see... so you're going to encode all the amv's separately, then merge them together into the long files? Interesting idea... that opens up the possibility of running the whole project off of a playlist. Not that it would be convenient if you didn't already have all the files... err... I don't know where I'm going with this. :?

How do you join mpeg1 and mpeg2 files without reencoding?

Can you post a finalized tracklist? (Remember that Maverick dropped out.)

I might change some of the images around in my monologues. I'll drop the new images on the ftp.
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Post by jasper-isis » Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:44 pm

Forgot to ask: what size will the monologue screencaps be on-screen? I don't want to submit an image with a lot of detail and then have it be resized to a blurb of color, so I'll just crop the picture before turning it in.
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Post by rose4emily » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:20 pm

Actually, the images you sent for "Forbidden Memories" scaled perfectly. I believe I put samples using that video for the fullscreen and a preview image for mine for the widescreen a while back, but I'd say the final 'screen' size was about 100px-150px of the 512px wide - to get an idea of how much detail there should be. I have to do a whole lot more of those soon, so I'll know for sure when I'm putting those together.

I found a black-and-white version of the television ad I've used for the fullscreen tv and the man on the chair (it was a Motorola, if I'm not mistaken) in a 1952 National Geographic in my grandmother's basement the other day, so I think I'll try scanning that it to see if it looks a bit sharper than the low-quality JPEG I had to work with before. I also saw an ad for a car that could accellerate from 15 to 50 MPH (none of that 0-60 stuff) in a 'racing' 13.5 seconds. Appearently my station wagon would have OWNED the stoplight races of the era. Technology's funny like that.

I haven't been able to get a decent recording from my microphone jack under Linux (which is odd, because it'll get my guiter just fine from the 'line in' jack), so I gave in to the dark side and re-imaged my laptop as a WinXP/Fedora Core 2 dual boot. Vocal recording through Audacity on Windows seems to work fine, and I'll do a few takes of each narrative I've found a copy of this evening (once my father stops cutting metal ductwork for his new dust-collector downstairs with his jigsaw - very loud, not at all conducive to recording, but great for keeping the woodshop dust under control).

It is possible to join an MPEG1 or MPEG2 stream without re-encoding becuase all implementations of MPEG1 and MPEG2 treat each frame as a keyframe, and thus no frame is dependent upon another frame for part of its information and they can be cut apart and reassembled without re-encoding so long as no changes are required within a single frame. The MPEG4 streams are, to the best of my knowledge, only re-encoded at the "seams" if the stream after the "seam" doesn't begin with a keyframe. This cuts down on data loss caused by repeated lossy compression while still making this kind of compilation managable on the kind of hardware an individual such as myself (as opposed to, say, Pixar or WETA) can afford. The caveat is that all encodings must be identical in frame rate, spatial resolution, encoding implementation, and any other parameters that a player is counting on remaining constant in order for such a join to work - hence my asking for lossless versions so I can do all of the lossy encoding myself using an identical process for each video.

I've also just found out that it is appearently possible to implement an MPEG2 codec without paying licencing fees, because there is an open-source implementation out there (actually, there are two that I know of and am studying intently), and the patents seem to apply to hardware implementations rather than the standard itself. Maybe I'm missing something, but that's the impression I have so far as I'm making progress toward producing a usable video editing application.
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Post by Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] » Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:41 pm

rose4emely, you did get my latest release of my Ghibli video right? ver 1.4, I uploaded it to the inbox a while back when you were away from the boards.
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Post by NeoQuixotic » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:19 pm

I feel sorry :oops: for not turning in my monolouge yet, I will really try to get it done. I just have been occupied by starting college, starting a new music video, and redesigning my website's layout. (shameless plug: check out my website ^_^) I'm a terrible procrastinator, but I *will* get it done. Any help on ideas of what type of information to include whould be nice. Good night all!
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Post by jasper-isis » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:35 am

Rose4: I dropped two more images for Forbidden Memories on the ftp. They go in front of the ones that you currently have. I'll copy and paste my monologue here for your convenience:
Forbidden Memories wrote:Love is freedom. [image 0a] Love can be hopeful, liberating, innocent, frail, and longing. Love threatens to break us apart but promises to build us into something new. Love lets us escape from our oppressors. And for these reasons, [image0b] love is often forbidden.

[image 1]She came into his life like a gently falling star and melted away the winter in his soul. She accepted him for who he was, even after she discovered [image 2] his secret. Through their love, he felt like he had finally been released [image 3] from his loneliness. But his freedom was not eternal. Fate [image 4] forced them apart, and all that remained [slight pause] were their [image 5] forbidden memories. [Fade to bumper?]

From the yearning lyrics of Jim Croce to Van Craven's haunting piano adaptation, the song "Time in a Bottle" carries with it a bittersweet message. Happy scenes accompany sad melodies, while happy melodies complement sad rememberings. This [very slight pause] is the story of a tragic, broken love.
Also, if you look at image 06 for Surrealism, you'll notice that it scales to something like a black rectangle with a pink dot in the middle. For this image I suggest that you don't resize and just crop the black areas around the door. I'll let you do whatever you see fit. :P
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Post by Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:46 pm

oh crap i forgot the images, You need 6 still frames right? do they have to coincide with what is being talked about in the monologue?
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Post by rose4emily » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:25 pm

The images should at least relate to the monologue, and the monologue should, ideally, be marked to indicate what pictures should be shown when.

I do have the Ghibli video. I don't have everyone's monologues yet, but I'm working with the ones I have so far. As soon as I can't find any more I'll put up a list of which ones I still need.

I do have an order planned for the videos now, but it's written down in a notebook at my grandmother's house, so I'll have to put that up in my next post. Better than causing a lot of confusion with a careless midnight guess at what I was thinking when I put that list together.

The audio recording's going fine. I've yet to try putting one of the audio tracks together with the "slide show", though, so I still have one more technical hurdle to jump before the project's done.
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Post by rose4emily » Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:25 am

The FTP server will be down for the next to days, possibly a couple beyond that, as I pack up and move back to Rochester for school. I'm in the middle of the narrative work now, and expect to have most of them done by the time the server goes back up. I've also tested the process of merging a couple of identically-encoded MPEG files, and that seemed to work fine, so I believe the long-overdue completion of this project is finally within reach.
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