Buying seperate hard drive practical?

Jnzk · Post by **Jnzk** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:43 am

My previous HD was a Maxtor which developed a strange whining noise after a while. I sold it to an unsuspecting individual and bought a Seagate, no problems since then.

RootHubController · Post by **RootHubController** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:57 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote: Ick. ICK ICK ICK ICK!!!
Stay the fuck away from WD and Maxtor, they suck. best 120gb 7200rpm drive out there would have to be the Seagate Barracuda 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HD. I have it and it performs really really well, better than the Maxtor that got supplied in the parts I built this PC from.

I call bullshit. I'm running 8 100GB WD HDDs in a RAID 5 config for a fileserver, four 80GB WD in my Exchange/ App server, and two 40GB WD HDD in my Primary Domain Controller. Have been for the past 5 months. I've been putting them through their paces, too. I call PEBCAK.

SS5_Majin_Bebi · Post by **SS5_Majin_Bebi** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:31 pm

RootHubController wrote:
SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote: Ick. ICK ICK ICK ICK!!!
Stay the fuck away from WD and Maxtor, they suck. best 120gb 7200rpm drive out there would have to be the Seagate Barracuda 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HD. I have it and it performs really really well, better than the Maxtor that got supplied in the parts I built this PC from.
I call bullshit. I'm running 8 100GB WD HDDs in a RAID 5 config for a fileserver, four 80GB WD in my Exchange/ App server, and two 40GB WD HDD in my Primary Domain Controller. Have been for the past 5 months. I've been putting them through their paces, too. I call PEBCAK.

That doesnt mean they dont suck, that just means you're lucky.

And fuck you for saying PEBCAK. There is NO PEBCAK existing here, alright? I'm sick of people calling PEBCAK when they just want to push their (incorrect) point.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:14 pm

I've had MAXTOR fail on me like four times now. I am not a fan of them. I have nothing against the following:

Western Digital
Seagate
Samsung

Those guys have performed well for me.

As for your bad RAM, I don't see how underclocking your CPU is going to save you from anything??

It's also more than logical to get another drive in your computer. I've got two and I'd get more if I had the $$$. Disk space is always running low on me, even with 120GB.

EBwiz · Post by **EBwiz** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:01 am

Ok, This is off the forums topic, but Klinky asked. :P

Here's the story. I bought the computer bare bones off of ebay for about 512 dollars after shipping, which was great cause I had a copy of XP Pro. Once I got the computer, however, I was having problems installing it, and on rare occasions when it would install (Correctly, sometimes I could get to XP and have most of the stuff not install correctly), Set ups wouldn't install everything, I got alot of Blue screens of deaths (BSODs, we all know about those), etc... So I gave it to my techie friend Steve. We both thought the Hard drive was bad and it wasn't writing things correctly to it, so he was going to try to write zeros to it and see if that would do it. Well, he likes to experiment and he had a pentium 4 1.8 GHz just lieing around that he decided to try and install on my computer... didn't work, took it out, put the 2.4 it came with back in... Suddenly, my computer is working fine. XP installs without a hitch, all set ups are installing fine. This is when he realized what had happened: My PC was still underclocked at 1.8 GHz from where the bios had auto detected the one he had put in a moment ago. On a wihm, he changed it back to 2.4, and the same problems came back. He attributed this to the RAM in a long, drawn out way that I don't remember (This was a year or so back... actually going on 2, when I had graduated high school)... I can talk to him later and post why he said it was the RAM, but anyway he installed a couple extra fans and gave the computer back to me and I haven't had any problems since, but as soon as I buy new RAM for the computer, I'm upping it back to 2.4 GHz in hopes everything will work fine.

RootHubController · Post by **RootHubController** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:12 pm

EBwiz wrote:Ok, This is off the forums topic, but Klinky asked.

Here's the story. I bought the computer bare bones off of ebay for about 512 dollars after shipping, which was great cause I had a copy of XP Pro. Once I got the computer, however, I was having problems installing it, and on rare occasions when it would install (Correctly, sometimes I could get to XP and have most of the stuff not install correctly), Set ups wouldn't install everything, I got alot of Blue screens of deaths (BSODs, we all know about those), etc... So I gave it to my techie friend Steve. We both thought the Hard drive was bad and it wasn't writing things correctly to it, so he was going to try to write zeros to it and see if that would do it. Well, he likes to experiment and he had a pentium 4 1.8 GHz just lieing around that he decided to try and install on my computer... didn't work, took it out, put the 2.4 it came with back in... Suddenly, my computer is working fine. XP installs without a hitch, all set ups are installing fine. This is when he realized what had happened: My PC was still underclocked at 1.8 GHz from where the bios had auto detected the one he had put in a moment ago. On a wihm, he changed it back to 2.4, and the same problems came back. He attributed this to the RAM in a long, drawn out way that I don't remember (This was a year or so back... actually going on 2, when I had graduated high school)... I can talk to him later and post why he said it was the RAM, but anyway he installed a couple extra fans and gave the computer back to me and I haven't had any problems since, but as soon as I buy new RAM for the computer, I'm upping it back to 2.4 GHz in hopes everything will work fine.

This is exactly why people who aren't A+ certified should have their fingers hacked off if they so much as come within 12 feet of a computer.

Flash your bios, update your power supply, check all your cable connections, make sure everything is configured correctly in your BIOS and everything will be fine.

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:58 pm

I'm not A+ certified, I'm twelve years old, I video edit and encode, I took my heatsink off my CPU, reapplied thermal grease, put the heatsink back on my CPU.

I take out my video cards, hook up new hard drives, moved my PCI cards around, etc.

Take your little comment about being A+ certified, and shove it up your ass.

RootHubController · Post by **RootHubController** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:07 pm

You can rest assured knowing that as soon as I start to care, I'll muster a tear from my eye... just for you. But untill then, I'll hold to my opinion. Nothing personal, you understand, but when you do end-user tech support for a living, and everyone says "My friend, who knows computers, says do this." you don't care what kind of experience they have.

... What they fail to understand, however, was that listening to their 'friend who knows computers' got them there in the first place. Who do they go to to fix their problems? Me. Because I actually know what the fuck I'm doing.

You're either a Technician... or an End User. there is no middle ground in my book.

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:11 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:I'm not A+ certified, I'm twelve years old, I video edit and encode, I took my heatsink off my CPU, reapplied thermal grease, put the heatsink back on my CPU.

I take out my video cards, hook up new hard drives, moved my PCI cards around, etc.

Take your little comment about being A+ certified, and shove it up your ass.

agreed... given that i could probably take the cert test now and pass but lack the funds to do it ($100-$200?). oh and i'm lazy. i know people who are certified and still know jack shit. just cause you can read a book, retain information and then pass a test doesn't mean you know what your doing. experience is the key. the certification just lets people know you've passed a test. :\

Pwolf

Pwolf

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:26 pm

RootHubController wrote:You can rest assured knowing that as soon as I start to care, I'll muster a tear from my eye... just for you. But untill then, I'll hold to my opinion. Nothing personal, you understand, but when you do end-user tech support for a living, and everyone says "My friend, who knows computers, says do this." you don't care what kind of experience they have.

... What they fail to understand, however, was that listening to their 'friend who knows computers' got them there in the first place. Who do they go to to fix their problems? Me. Because I actually know what the fuck I'm doing.

You're either a Technician... or an End User. there is no middle ground in my book.

your too bitter towards end users... you probably have a lot more experience then "the friend", but still, no need to get all pissy about it. When you get into that mindset you don't listen to what they have to say cause well, they might be right, no?

when i take my computer to get fixed and say something is wrong with the ata133/RAID controller and the technician trys to fix my windows partition which i told him i was going to get rid of anyway and he doesn't even check the controller. thats fucking gay. not to mention the guy accused my system of being filled with spyware without even looking at the computer... fuck that shit. sometimes you "Techs" are too bitter to think that maybe you don't know everything.

Pwolf
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