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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:40 pm

trythil wrote:
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trythil wrote:
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trythil wrote:Oakenfold is not trance.

Oakenfold is crap.

:P
I like Oakenfold, and btw, it was just an example.
Yeah, so was my post.
I love you and your sense for making senseless posts :(.
If you thought about it for five seconds, it'd make sense.

Here's some hints. It really ties in with Flint's post, actually.

Let's say I make a video and I think it's trance. Not Oakie trance, but some crazy hard-acid-trip stuff. I classify it as "trance", as it IS trance, and let it out for the world to see.

Someone else comes in with some other preconceived notion of what trance is. They don't like trippy acid tracks. They find this video and go "oh wow this might be neat".

Whoops, your system just fell apart, as it just failed its purpose.
It's teh same way with dbz videos, and yet you still might download one every now and then... Ops your point just died.
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Post by trythil » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:42 pm

Voices_Of_Ryan wrote: It's teh same way with dbz videos, and yet you still might download one every now and then... Ops your point just died.
Thanks for the confirmation. My point is not yet dead, however, as the burden of proof that this will actually make a difference is on you, not me.

So what's the point of this system, besides adding in more labels that we have to deal with?

You haven't shown in any way that it'll appreciably improve filtering.

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:43 pm

trythil wrote:
Voices_Of_Ryan wrote: It's teh same way with dbz videos, and yet you still might download one every now and then... Ops your point just died.
Thanks for the confirmation. My point is not yet dead, however, as the burden of proof that this will actually make a difference is on you, not me.

So what's the point of this system, besides adding in more labels that we have to deal with?

You haven't shown in any way that it'll appreciably improve filtering.
I like rock, I like tenchi. I put in rock and tenchi... I get rock and tenchi videos... Yay.
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Post by trythil » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:45 pm

Voices_Of_Ryan wrote:
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Voices_Of_Ryan wrote: It's teh same way with dbz videos, and yet you still might download one every now and then... Ops your point just died.
Thanks for the confirmation. My point is not yet dead, however, as the burden of proof that this will actually make a difference is on you, not me.

So what's the point of this system, besides adding in more labels that we have to deal with?

You haven't shown in any way that it'll appreciably improve filtering.
I like rock, I like tenchi. I put in rock and tenchi... I get rock and tenchi videos... Yay.
...except that, by your previous admission, there's no way to assure that you'll get any improvement in "rock" and "tenchi" videos.

Think about this -- it's not hard to see how this system doesn't make a difference :P

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:46 pm

trythil wrote:
Voices_Of_Ryan wrote:
trythil wrote:
Voices_Of_Ryan wrote: It's teh same way with dbz videos, and yet you still might download one every now and then... Ops your point just died.
Thanks for the confirmation. My point is not yet dead, however, as the burden of proof that this will actually make a difference is on you, not me.

So what's the point of this system, besides adding in more labels that we have to deal with?

You haven't shown in any way that it'll appreciably improve filtering.
I like rock, I like tenchi. I put in rock and tenchi... I get rock and tenchi videos... Yay.
...except that, by your previous admission, there's no way to assure that you'll get any improvement in "rock" and "tenchi" videos.

Think about this -- it's not hard to see how this system doesn't make a difference :P
Then why dont we shut down the entire system? make all videos blind, knowing the anime wont help, knowing the audio wont help, knowning the genra wont help.

Just download random videos.
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Post by trythil » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:49 pm

Voices_Of_Ryan wrote: Then why dont we shut down the entire system? make all videos blind, knowing the anime wont help, knowing the audio wont help, knowning the genra wont help.

Just download random videos.
You're jumping ahead too far, too fast :) Do I sense exasperation?

Knowing the anime and audio does help a bit, especially if you know

(1) what the anime is
(2) the general kind of music that a given artist produces

And sometimes, it's fun to just download random videos. You can find neat things that way.

I don't do it very often, admittedly, but it can be enjoyable. Especially when you can dish out 1's :twisted:

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:50 pm

trythil wrote:
Voices_Of_Ryan wrote: Then why dont we shut down the entire system? make all videos blind, knowing the anime wont help, knowing the audio wont help, knowning the genra wont help.

Just download random videos.
You're jumping ahead too far, too fast :) Do I sense exasperation?

Knowing the anime and audio does help a bit, especially if you know

(1) what the anime is
(2) the general kind of music that a given artist produces

And sometimes, it's fun to just download random videos. You can find neat things that way.

I don't do it very often, admittedly, but it can be enjoyable. Especially when you can dish out 1's :twisted:
But it's an opinion on what I think would help.
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Post by trythil » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:55 pm

Voices_Of_Ryan wrote:
trythil wrote:
Voices_Of_Ryan wrote: Then why dont we shut down the entire system? make all videos blind, knowing the anime wont help, knowing the audio wont help, knowning the genra wont help.

Just download random videos.
You're jumping ahead too far, too fast :) Do I sense exasperation?

Knowing the anime and audio does help a bit, especially if you know

(1) what the anime is
(2) the general kind of music that a given artist produces

And sometimes, it's fun to just download random videos. You can find neat things that way.

I don't do it very often, admittedly, but it can be enjoyable. Especially when you can dish out 1's :twisted:
But it's an opinion on what I think would help.
Alright, so we're back here. Opinions, yes; this is what this whole thread has been. I just don't think it'd make any significant difference, and that's just me.

Genres of AMVs have had the same problem. To me, it's too often been the case that comedy isn't; drama isn't; character profiles aren't; and so forth. That's why I don't think putting a music genre tag will do much -- genre classification as a filter is just too vague to be used by anything except, say, sarcastic electronic music guides.

IMHO.

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Post by Otohiko » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:21 pm

Yea, but there goes proper classification of most of my music choices :|

Well, at least if its' done, things like Avant-Garde, Dada-Rock, and Demented-Shit will have to be entered into the database :roll:
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Post by Jnzk » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:31 pm

Otohiko wrote:Demented-Shit
I'll have to familiarise myself with this genre. :D

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