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Wide Screen AMV!

Post by DJ_Izumi » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:59 pm

Well, the standard practice for editing an AMV with anamorphic source is to scale down and resize to 640x360, and sometimes 720x405, retaining the 16:9 aspect ratio but losing nearly 1/3rd of the pixels.

I'm sitting here with the Noir DVDs, thinking of redoing Noir Raider with some new techniques I've learned, and not using Divx OGM rips as source material. But I wanted to make it special, make it cooler than the original (And the original was pretty damn good)

So this is my question, has anyone ever done a true wide screen AMV? As in an AMV done at 864x480, by resizing the anamorphic video up rather than down. DVD's are made anamorphic BECAUSE the mind really dosn't notice the loss of quality from reducing the vertial lines of resolution, as long as there's plenty of horozontal lines of resolution. This would essentially maximize visual detail rather than reduce it as the standard method of sizing down does.

So, has anyone ever done this before? :)
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Re: Wide Screen AMV!

Post by Scintilla » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:04 pm

DJ_Izumi wrote:So this is my question, has anyone ever done a true wide screen AMV? As in an AMV done at 864x480, by resizing the anamorphic video up rather than down.
I'm doing one now, editing at 960x480. In fact, I think it's what the (new) guides recommend for NTSC widescreen.
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Post by DJ_Izumi » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:28 pm

Hrm. Photoshop and After Effects have 854x480 written down as stock 'wide screen' for NTSC, not 960. But that gives you a 16:9 ratio for 1:1 pixels, I'm guessing that 960x480 is the 16:9 you get when the pixels are 1:0.9 for NTSC television.

Not that it -really- matters. For PC playback you'd want 1:1 pixels, for DVD you'd just be scaling down back to 720x480 and going anamorphic, huh?
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Post by Scintilla » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:31 pm

DJ_Izumi wrote:Hrm. Photoshop and After Effects have 854x480 written down as stock 'wide screen' for NTSC, not 960. But that gives you a 16:9 ratio for 1:1 pixels, I'm guessing that 960x480 is the 16:9 you get when the pixels are 1:0.9 for NTSC television.
That's what the guides say, yeah. They recommend a resolution of 848x480 if you want square pixels all the way through, but I suspect that's just because 848 is a multiple of 16.
DJ_Izumi wrote:Not that it -really- matters. For PC playback you'd want 1:1 pixels, for DVD you'd just be scaling down back to 720x480 and going anamorphic, huh?
Yeah, and for AMV contests you'd be letterboxing. :(
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Post by DJ_Izumi » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:36 pm

But, AMV contests accept DVD submissiosn, dont' they? Couldn't you just do an anamorphic DVD?
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Post by Scintilla » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:40 pm

Okay, yeah, I suppose that the contests that do take DVDs (like AnimeBoston) would do okay with an anamorphic DVD... but (1) there aren't too many contests that allow you to submit authored DVDs, are there?, and (2) I don't have a DVD burner. :P
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Post by CerebralAssamite » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:24 pm

Yeah im working on one now, only because my source material is already in widescreen and my ripper decided not to work properlly, i will admitt though it doesnt look half bad in wide screen, gives it a more cinematic approach.

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Post by Scintilla » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:28 pm

CerebralAssamite wrote:Yeah im working on one now, only because my source material is already in widescreen and my ripper decided not to work properlly, i will admitt though it doesnt look half bad in wide screen, gives it a more cinematic approach.
... What do you mean, it decided not to work properly? How you ripped the footage shouldn't affect its aspect ratio...
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Post by Corran » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:29 pm

CerebralAssamite wrote:Yeah im working on one now, only because my source material is already in widescreen and my ripper decided not to work properlly, i will admitt though it doesnt look half bad in wide screen, gives it a more cinematic approach.
What do you mean your ripper didn't work correctly? You have your source don't you? All the ripper does is extract the footage from the disc. It doesn't resize it. If I had to guess your footage appears widescreen because it still has a resolution of 720 by 480. Resize to a square pixel aspect ratio resolution to correct this.

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Post by CerebralAssamite » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:26 am

I use Supper DvD Ripper and if a dvd is in widescreen it can change its resolution to whatever you make it most is 720x570 or something like that.

But since it decided that after it rips to spit up unknown error msg's when i play it in wmp, jet audio, rm player and winamp. I used a different one like Max DVD to AVI, doesnt worry me that much i dont want to rip the entire movie or series.

P.S Yes i have reinstalled the software/uninstalled it, formatted, changed its directory and even emailed the creater (with no reply yet) searched on google and other search engines and I am still looking for answers to my problem. FYI this post isnt me asking for help.

Oh yeah and I am using the right codecs im not a NooB.

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