I think I figured it out! Soap feeling.

Nekoboy Sal · Post by **Nekoboy Sal** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:59 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:And the rest of your post here makes NO sense at all. You cant percieve a difference in framerate between PAL and NTSC consciously anyway.

We shall see.

As for the rest, we will still have to see.

bum · Post by **bum** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:15 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:....

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.

ok, i know im gona sound like the bigest hypocrite on the face of the earth here, but "technicaly" wasnt that breaking the rules ? i mean, the rules state that if ya aint got nothing nice to say then to not say anything at all. so "technicaly" AD just broke the rules. OH MY GOD ABSOLUTE DESTINY JUST BROKE THE FORUM RULES. NOW HE CAN NEVER BE PERFECT AGAIN. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ah, good on ya ad, its about time ya started being a little less nice

SS5_Majin_Bebi · Post by **SS5_Majin_Bebi** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:56 pm

bum wrote:
AbsoluteDestiny wrote:....

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.
ok, i know im gona sound like the bigest hypocrite on the face of the earth here, but "technicaly" wasnt that breaking the rules ? i mean, the rules state that if ya aint got nothing nice to say then to not say anything at all. so "technicaly" AD just broke the rules. OH MY GOD ABSOLUTE DESTINY JUST BROKE THE FORUM RULES. NOW HE CAN NEVER BE PERFECT AGAIN. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ah, good on ya ad, its about time ya started being a little less nice

Dude, AD is like... GOD now or some shit. He could set your house on fire and piss on the ashes and you couldnt stop him. Besides, I think everyone agrees with him on the "dumb" comment.

Vladiator · Post by **Vladiator** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:42 pm

narcted wrote:I don't think so. Your TV is different than ours. I don't think it's able to display the NTSC standard. So if you're watching it, the TV station has probably converted it to PAL. Not only that, your eye reloads at rate too slow to tell the difference between 24 an 30 fps. I think the eye is something like 15-20 fps and it will think it's continious motion.

actually... the human eye can see at 30 FPS...

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:40 pm

The magic # for persistence of vision is 60fps. But many people can see higher than that. I, for one, can tell the difference between 75hz & 85hz on a computer monitor.

Fungie½ · Post by **Fungie½** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:17 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:....

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.

How rude can you get? Why not, instead of putting your absolute knowledge above everyone else, point out the different mistakes in his theory so that he can correct himself in future arguments? This is someone just trying to prove something, and even if it is incorrect, calling it dumb is completely uncalled for. Perhaps some rephrasing should be called for?

Lone Wolf · Post by **Lone Wolf** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:21 pm

I have been wondering about this for a LONG time. I'd really like to know what they do to make the two types different.

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:28 am

http://misatokatsuragi.home.comcast.net/ani1.avi
http://misatokatsuragi.home.comcast.net/ani2.avi

Don't tell me you can see the difference between those two.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:27 am

Fungie½ wrote:
AbsoluteDestiny wrote:....

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.
How rude can you get? Why not, instead of putting your absolute knowledge above everyone else, point out the different mistakes in his theory so that he can correct himself in future arguments? This is someone just trying to prove something, and even if it is incorrect, calling it dumb is completely uncalled for. Perhaps some rephrasing should be called for?

When something is very very technically incorrect I don't see any problem with calling that knowledge dumb. If I said "3 isn't a prime number" it would be dumb and I'd expect people to tell me so.

The obvious reason that the first post is wrong is that Soaps and "normal tv stuff" are generally both filmed at the same framerate. Any perceived difference is not due to framerate.

There may be other elements that give soaps a disctinctive look. The type of film used would certainly be one of them as I can see them using much cheaper film than a mini series or a movie... but I dont know about cheaper film than "most tv stuff".

The way they are lit would probably be different from the way a chat show would be lit or a documentary film would be lit, so that may be different too.

However, it's nothing to do with framerate.

Nekoboy Sal · Post by **Nekoboy Sal** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:04 pm

I could tell the diffrence with the spinny. But that was progressive footage. I couldn't tell on interlaced footage, but I didn't try. I agree now that soaps are most likely 24fps. But what is new? I don't think that its acctualy recorded. So it dose have a posibility to be live 29.97fps.

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:....

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.

Personaly I didn't think it was that rude. I liked it

I'm going to change it to my new signiture as soon as I can change the AbsoluteDestiny wrote to AbsoluteDestiny told me. I'm pretty sure you can do it.
For future refrence, the signiture I have now is "I may be a liar, but at least I'm a gentleman." Thats just in case some one comments on my sig and I don't know whitch one it was. Drives me crazy!