laptop

madmag9999 · Post by **madmag9999** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:57 am

yea sure a good vid card helps in editing. but it is not as important as havenig a good cpu and lots of ram. the vid card will not dramacticly increase the rendering time. unless you running some 8mb voodo or something

madmag9999 · Post by **madmag9999** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:07 am

sorry bout the duble post but i was just thinking about battery life. if you get such a high end laptop and want to render on it and run the heat pad off of its power i highly dought the battery will last even an hour. so unless you plan on having it plugged in or haveing extrabatteries this is a huge problem.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:20 am

aznfs wrote:ok just for starters i dont kno where the best place to stick this thread is and i has relativly nothing to do with video hardware....

ok

i want to get a laptop but i have the restrictions of the laptop not being too over priced and has to be able to handle all of my current programs ... vegas 4/5 + DVD , after effects, sound forge and acid.... hmmmm is there any way to cool down a laptop when it is rendering stuff.... i need i had my brother's laptop on my... lap... and it was BURNING

help

I recommend buying a Compaq/HP "R3000Z." I can't seem to get the link to work, but just go to Compaq's site and go to "notebooks" and you'll see it.

It's an Athlon-64 based laptop with decent graphics, plenty of memory, HD space and so on. I'd debateably say it's more powerful than 80% of the computers most .org folks use to edit with (those being desktops too).

Since it's an Athlon-64, I don't imagine you'll have much trouble in terms of speed and so on, so that should help with the editing and so on. I just bought one for my ex-girlfriend (don't ask >_>) and although it's a bit bulky (7 lbs compared to thin-and-lights which are 5...although I don't recommend editing with a thin-and-light), it's really powerful. The stigma that laptops are "weak" for gaming/editing is no longer true.

What's best is you can probably make a good "R3000Z" set-up for under $1,200 and that's a steal considering most non-64 bit laptops are around that price.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:44 am

Review of the Compaq R3000Z

eMachines also has an Athlon 64 laptop.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:20 pm

TaranT wrote:Review of the Compaq R3000Z

eMachines also has an Athlon 64 laptop.

Yeah i knew about the e-machines laptop, but

A) I dislike E-machines
B) It only comes with Windows XP Home Edition.

It looks like that review is pretty positive. He had gripes with the graphics card, but well...a Geforce 4 is pretty good for a laptop and for editing, it wouldn't matter.

I do think a valid complaint is that the HD is 4200 RPM and I didn't know that, but for my ex, it's alright since she doesn't edit and so on

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He also points out the weight thing which I mentioned, but all "Desktop Replacements" weigh that much. You can't get a powerful machine unless it's fairly bulky. I have a thin-and-light, but I sure as hell can't do much with it. However, I bought it more for going to classes and so on (the mobile aspected).

Thanks for the links!

aznfs · Post by **aznfs** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:56 pm

madmag9999 wrote:sorry bout the duble post but i was just thinking about battery life. if you get such a high end laptop and want to render on it and run the heat pad off of its power i highly dought the battery will last even an hour. so unless you plan on having it plugged in or haveing extrabatteries this is a huge problem.

i doubt ill ever do any final rendering...in class... where i wouldnt have somewhere to plug the laptop into, but i have considered adding an extra battery pak to the mix.... and the expenses go up

i dont realli care of the OS currently because my brother(who works for the infamous microsoft) can get me XP pro

the hard drive is the problem i want to get a 7200rpm hard drive and big like 80gb+ because i dont want to be hauling around an external everywhere<-- and i would need somewhere to plug this xternal in.

i wonder if putting an ice pack under the laptop would be bad?

i mean a cooling pad is 30 bucks and an ice pack is well free is guess

aznfs · Post by **aznfs** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:59 pm

edit button

grrr...

jk

would getting a dvd burner be unreasonable?

DaNuKa_SAN · Post by **DaNuKa_SAN** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:21 pm

lotsa HD space 80 gb
lotsa procesing power 1.8 ghz
lotsa memory...512 min
minimum 64 memory for gfx dedicated...
dvd and cdr^^ combo drive

id even suggest gettimg an iBook or other type of portable Mac...theyll render much better than any laptop runnning intel or AMD for video...

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:27 pm

DaNuKa_SAN wrote:id even suggest gettimg an iBook or other type of portable Mac...theyll render much better than any laptop runnning intel or AMD for video...

What?

Are you on crack? An iBook is easily the slowest solution out of the ones you've named. Seriously...an iBook? Do you even know how slow those run? Even by your guidelines it'd be too slow. An iBook's top speed is 1.2 Ghz. I don't understand how that can even come close to a 64-bit 2.0+ Ghz chip with Hyper-transport.

Oh and I know speed != Performance, but in this case, it's a known fact the AMD core is more efficient than the Apple core *and* it's obviously faster. That equates to a double loss for Apple and effectively the slowest chip on the market.

And how does this all equate to the fastest for video editing? I don't know how:

slowest processor + slowest memory = fastest editing

Do you have any benchmarks or well...any proof to back-up your statements? If not, I suggest you not make such outlandish ones.

You should brush up on your tech knowledge before making suggestions. It would suck for him to actually go with your recommendation and in turn have an outdated paperweight.

Also as I said earlier, your video card does very little to editing unless you buy something like say a Matrox X10/100.

aznfs wrote: the hard drive is the problem i want to get a 7200rpm hard drive and big like 80gb+ because i dont want to be hauling around an external everywhere<-- and i would need somewhere to plug this xternal in.

Uhm, you do realize there's no major laptop manufacturer with 7200 RPM hard-drives. The best you're most likely to find is 5400 RPM. I'm not at all saying they don't exist, but it will surely take some time before they become a standard. I strongly suggest an external for editing since the most you'll get is *maybe* 80 GB internally and I for one use quite a bit more than that to edit with (multiple projects).

Although I don't edit often on my laptop (not that powerful), I did buy an external HD to do it since the internal is too slow. You can get a 7200 RPM 8 MB cache external for ~100 - 200 bucks and that's a decent investment.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:56 pm

DaNuKa_SAN>> Wow <a href="http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/W ... .1.0.0.1.0"> Powerbooks are such a great value!</a>. Sure does run that Vegas 5 sofware that's only made for PCs too...

The eMachines seems like the best value out there. Someone on a forum I visit really liked it. It boasts some pretty spiffy specs for a laptop & for the cost. It's heavy though.

A good thing to get down right now, especially when buying a laptop, is what is your price limit. What do you want to spend? You can get some powerful lighter notebooks, but those are in the $2,000+ range.

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