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Post by jasper-isis » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:23 pm

Hopefully the reason Rose4Emily has been absent is because he's settling in and putting up a stable ftp! Yayy!

Odd jitter-like effect... not sure what you mean by that. I do confess to overusing the speed function though. That caused, among other things, some jitter at the edge of the screen, but I cropped it out so it shouldn't be a problem anymore.

Okay... here's the first complete beta of Surrealism. It's a shortie - only 2:05 long. I wont say what the anime and song are (you'll have to watch it to see :P ) but do be warned that it's kinda... weird. As it's a beta, there are still a bunch of effects that I need to fix... but the overall layout of the video is there.

However, I doubt that it would be added to the Instrumentality project as it's widescreen and would only add more minutes to the already-gigantic widescreen section.
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Post by Kalium » Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:33 pm

Sorry about the outage, guys. I lost my internet connection last Saturday, and it only today came back. Things are still running, though.l

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Post by Otohiko » Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:22 pm

Heh, I've been sort of dead in the last couple of days, too...

I think it's a good time to tell me if there's anything besides another writeup that I need to submit - I could have my internet cut off within the next week, so I'd rather tie up all loose ends before then.
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Post by Maverick-Rubik » Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:15 pm

I'm disappointed to say that I will not be able to finish my track by this weekend, as the people of 5555 would appreciate me fixing my track for submission so they can release part 2. :|

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Post by Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] » Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:56 pm

Jasper-Isis wrote: However, I doubt that it would be added to the Instrumentality project as it's widescreen and would only add more minutes to the already-gigantic widescreen section.
tiz a shame, because it is a good video. It does feel very sureal, And different from most of what we already have, would add more flavor to the project I think. I think the project is hurting without the inclusion of it. I vote for inclusion! its only 2 mins afterall. what does the other project members think?
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Post by Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:07 pm

Ok finished putting together a draft for the DVD box covers, Posting them to see what you guys think. Suggestions are welcome. I used the font (or at least one close to it) Jasper-Isis used to keep it uniform with the project. I'm trying to keep it simple, yet Elagant at the same time.

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Back Cover:
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ofcourse these are just drafts and suggestions from the project members are welcome. Also, Ooshna, will you be able to print these (or copy them at say... staples) for distribution?

What I normally do when I do these (I used to do something similar when I used to fansub) Is print out High quality ones on photoquality paper, then color copy them at staples to put in the sleaves for the DVD boxes to distribute. If you give me the monologues of each video, I'll even make something of an insert to put in the dvd box with them on it.

The Title screen for the DVD I'm thinking of doing the same way, with the same font, and probably loop small parts of each amv in the background.

I'll proabbly do up a rough draft in a few days to give an idea of what I'm thinking.
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Post by rose4emily » Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:44 pm

Otohiko: Nope, just the write-up and you're all set.

Jasper-Isis: If the second video is very near or at completion, I'd love to see it and find a place for it. The first one suggests such a good successor that it'd be hard to pass up. Also - as I remember, the original plan stated that ALL videos were supposed to be in 16:9. The only reason for the 3:4 section is that enough people managed to produce great videos while screwing up on that rule that I decided to abandon it. Even if the 16:9 section is longer, it also might have the same file size as the 3:4 due to it's lower number of pixels per frame.

FTP: Stable one - not yet. My server still hasn't come in (will probably be another week or so before it ships, last I checked - damn wait periods on custom-spec hardware), but I have been digging up all the info I can find on setting it up so it'll be ready the night it shows up at my door. As to my laptop, the poor thing's hard drive is sliding yet farther toward oblivion and I've had X-Server crash on boot twice in the past week because it couldn't properly decompress the temp files. Needless to say, between that and the fact that I can hardly take away my father's internet connection when he's doing 60-hour weeks and trying to test and fix some especially buggy outsourced code, I've only had my server up for a few hours in the last several days. Again, apologies, and I'm doing what I can. The good news, in the mean time, is that it seems you've managed to work around this rather ugly obstacle quite nicely, especially where I failed to see it coming and warn you all ahead of time.

Credits Audio: The "Fly Me To The Moon" arrangement, when I actually started working on it, had two big and inescapable problems: it didn't go too well with every piece in the show, and it was way too long. Consequently, I'm thinking of using Louis Armstrong's recording of "What A Wonderful World" instead. It's not instrumental, but it is the ultimate counterpoint for most everything leading up to it - and enough people seem to like the song that it shouldn't scare anyone away from seeing all of your names plastered across the screen for a couple minutes.

Intermission Audio: Finished that. I ended up doing a mix of the Monty Python intermission theme and the Offspring's Ixne on the Hombre Intermission theme (in essence, the "Ahhhhhh..... Intermission....." part). Nothing fancy, but it seems to work. When the new FTP finally is up I'll have it up there for you all to see.

Background graphics: I keep going back and forth - should I try for a very realistic looking setting (as in set up a room and photograph it), a quasi-realistic setting (as in do a detailed drawing of a room), or a flat-shaded anime-looking room (as in somewhere between the appearence of a real den and the 'thinking chair' from Blues Clues). Everything I've done so far has been in the second catagory, but it just doesn't seem to fit and, sadly, I've lost my scans anyhow (once again, dying hard drive) so I figured I might as well just pose the question up here.

By The Way: I've just finished the first functional part of my Java Advanced Media Studio (JAMS, unless I find out the name is taken by something more similar than a collection of spreadable preserves). It plays a collection of PNG images (as enumerated in a text list) at a user-specified frame rate - and, to my joyful surprise, actually seems to do so pretty smoothly even before I start into the optimization work. It doesn't do sound, or transport controls, or any actual editing yet - but it's a start. I do have to replace the timer function, however, because the standard Java timer I'm using now has rather pathetic resolution on Windows (10ms for Win2K/XP, 30-50ms for Win95/98/ME). It's 1ms in Linux, Solaris, and probably on Mac, but the Windows machines seem for some reason to have a pretty bad implementation. There's also a redundancy codec under way that essetially searches past frames for identical frames to locate duplicates and loops that should make a losslessly encoding as small as a typical fansub DivX for most forms of anime - and even smaller for American sitcom animation, provided the video is encoded from pristine source (the PNG encoder compresses previously uncompressed images much better than ones filled with compression 'noise'). That's it for the editing codec, as I want to keep the frames independent, but I might create a distribution codec in the future that also does bitmasked delta frames and the like to really cut down the file size without killing any quality - not much use for live footage, however.

JAMS is actually being designed as more of a media creation studio (vector graphics, event-driven audio, audio and video synthesis engines...) than a media editing studio - but the ability to work with existing media is important both as a feature and as a convenient starting point for me to test its rendering output, so it will also allow the editing of PNG streams and PCM audio.

If anyone wanted to know where all my leftover time was going, there you are.

BTW: Just previewed all this rambling, and happened to notice Bakadeshi's DVD covers. Very nice - the big-label folks should learn to produce such attractive packaging.
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Post by Otohiko » Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:01 am

Alright, looks like we're close to being finished now.

Great covers Bakadeshi, definitely a professional-looking piece of work.

Actually, I'm also petitioning in favour of Surrealism being included, if that's possible. Actually, I think it would be a good interlude between End of All Eva and The Wasteland - perhaps the audience could use the thematic break? :roll:
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Post by rose4emily » Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:53 am

I concur.
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Post by Otohiko » Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:26 am

Awesome! :)

It's easily one of the best artistic showcase/mood sync videos I've yet seen. I think it would be great if you'd use it to break up the two heavy Eva videos - though if you have a better place for it, I don't mind.



(A certain band has a term for a mood-clearing interlude like this - 'asswind', where they use brief texturistic soundscapes to blow the heavy stuff off the audience's mind and get them more open-minded for the next major piece. I hope this doesn't sound demeaning, but considering its' length, this could be the best piece of 'visual asswind' ever :) )
The Birds are using humanity in order to throw something terrifying at this green pig. And then what happens to us all later, that’s simply not important to them…

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