Ok... to begin all of this I will tell you a little story. At home i can log into AMV- no problems with anything. At school i get around the filter (bess) to get to AMV because it is blocked under the catagory "Violence".
Now the fun part-
I cannot log into AMV through the proxy that i mirror to at my school. I cannot figure out how to be able to log in. I went to the troubleshooting for log in- did that to the school computer- but it still does not work.
The proxy that i use is NHUANET (to get around the filter) and the site comes up just fine. Im even able to download videos if i wish to. But the only thing i cannot do is LOG IN. The forums on the other hand, i can log into. This is why I am confused. I have been doing everything i can to get around this problem but i have NO IDEA what to do now.
No one stupid reply to this, if you dont know what a proxy is and you do not know the concept of the mirror thing on the internet, please DO NOT reply to this.
This is not a big problem or anything but it still is a problem that i cannot overpass. Please help... if you can.
Proxy/Mirror help: Login to site problem
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ZyZod
- Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 10:27 pm
- Location: Colorado
Proxy/Mirror help: Login to site problem
>>For every positive, there will be two negatives<<
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ZyZod
- Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 10:27 pm
- Location: Colorado
This might help out a bit so you guys can visualize what im talking about:::
I log into the school computer.
Next i start the internet and go to my PROXY site
I type in AMV's URL and hit enter
At the AMV site, i type my username and password and hit enter
The URL ADDRESS bar shows that it trys to log me in as a member, but then it quickly changes back to the "Login" URL
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I tried all the trouble shooting problems and it SHOULD be able to connect me to the site- but its not. If i have to guess, its something with the PROXY. But i want to be reashured about that before anything else. Thanks- and i hope that this helps out more.
I log into the school computer.
Next i start the internet and go to my PROXY site
I type in AMV's URL and hit enter
At the AMV site, i type my username and password and hit enter
The URL ADDRESS bar shows that it trys to log me in as a member, but then it quickly changes back to the "Login" URL
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I tried all the trouble shooting problems and it SHOULD be able to connect me to the site- but its not. If i have to guess, its something with the PROXY. But i want to be reashured about that before anything else. Thanks- and i hope that this helps out more.
>>For every positive, there will be two negatives<<
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Phade
- Site Admin
- Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2000 10:49 pm
- Location: Little cabin in the woods...
Hey,
Hmmm. Try this logout link and then try to login again. If that doesn't work, see if there is a "cookie_user_id" listed in your session variables. It could be that your proxy does not store or pass on cookie information. The forum can transparently switch to "non-cookie" mode and allow you to use the site. However, the main site does not have a similar mode.
I hope this helps.
Phade.
Hmmm. Try this logout link and then try to login again. If that doesn't work, see if there is a "cookie_user_id" listed in your session variables. It could be that your proxy does not store or pass on cookie information. The forum can transparently switch to "non-cookie" mode and allow you to use the site. However, the main site does not have a similar mode.
I hope this helps.
Phade.
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Lyrs
- Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2002 2:41 pm
- Location: Internet Donation: 5814 Posts
Hey,
If your school is rating this site under "violence" and prohibiting you from contacting it, than you shouldn't try to do so at school. If you really feel that accessing this site at your school is helpful to your education, you could ask the administration of whichever school it is to allow visits to this site. Such an action may likely result in actiosn favorable to you if the administrator finds that there is no harm in allowign you to visit this or that it helps you in yoru education. Otherwise, you won't gain access because it is a waste of school bandwith, which like most bandwith is limited and costly.
If you were to choose a different course, such as using a proxy, you'll be in violation of your school rules, unles I am mistaken. This of course means that you may face adminstrative actions should your activities be found out. Naturally it would, unless your school district has poor net access regulation. However, I wouldn't base my chances on the negligence of district net administrators.
Should you be found in violation of accessing this site through a proxy or other means during school, you may face disciplinary actions ranging from a call/letter/conference to/with your parents, blocking you from accessing the web altogether, or in the case of extremes, expelling you from school for a time.
Lyrs.
P.S. Have fun!
If your school is rating this site under "violence" and prohibiting you from contacting it, than you shouldn't try to do so at school. If you really feel that accessing this site at your school is helpful to your education, you could ask the administration of whichever school it is to allow visits to this site. Such an action may likely result in actiosn favorable to you if the administrator finds that there is no harm in allowign you to visit this or that it helps you in yoru education. Otherwise, you won't gain access because it is a waste of school bandwith, which like most bandwith is limited and costly.
If you were to choose a different course, such as using a proxy, you'll be in violation of your school rules, unles I am mistaken. This of course means that you may face adminstrative actions should your activities be found out. Naturally it would, unless your school district has poor net access regulation. However, I wouldn't base my chances on the negligence of district net administrators.
Should you be found in violation of accessing this site through a proxy or other means during school, you may face disciplinary actions ranging from a call/letter/conference to/with your parents, blocking you from accessing the web altogether, or in the case of extremes, expelling you from school for a time.
Lyrs.
P.S. Have fun!
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ZyZod
- Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 10:27 pm
- Location: Colorado
Phade- ill try that tommaro when i get to school again.
As for the other topic- im fully aware of what can happen if i get cought, but, unlike ii's (internet idiots) i know how to "Vanash my trace".
DEFF. of Internet Idiots: People who get the "fine" list for downloading things from Kazaa. You people are idiots... learn to hide what your doing.
But if i do happen to get "expelled" i only have a week left of school for this year. I know that they (the administrators) will NOT unblock it because it is NOT educational. But answer this... If a site where i get to communicate to thousands of people violent and not Educational, then why dont they block POGO.COM? This is why i have a good defence "IF" they do catch me.
So im aware and ready for them if they are after me. But earlyer (and i think still, i found a way to get around it) it wouldent let me DOWNLOAD the videos. It listed ALL avi and mpg as "Pornography". So- as you can expect, i was pissed because this site has nothing to do with "Pornography".
I might stream my fav music video every once and awhile, but that is only when i have nothing better to do and i know the bandwith can support it (when the internet is SUPER fast).
Ill post tommaro to tell you if the thing works though.
As for the other topic- im fully aware of what can happen if i get cought, but, unlike ii's (internet idiots) i know how to "Vanash my trace".
DEFF. of Internet Idiots: People who get the "fine" list for downloading things from Kazaa. You people are idiots... learn to hide what your doing.
But if i do happen to get "expelled" i only have a week left of school for this year. I know that they (the administrators) will NOT unblock it because it is NOT educational. But answer this... If a site where i get to communicate to thousands of people violent and not Educational, then why dont they block POGO.COM? This is why i have a good defence "IF" they do catch me.
So im aware and ready for them if they are after me. But earlyer (and i think still, i found a way to get around it) it wouldent let me DOWNLOAD the videos. It listed ALL avi and mpg as "Pornography". So- as you can expect, i was pissed because this site has nothing to do with "Pornography".
I might stream my fav music video every once and awhile, but that is only when i have nothing better to do and i know the bandwith can support it (when the internet is SUPER fast).
Ill post tommaro to tell you if the thing works though.
>>For every positive, there will be two negatives<<
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Lyrs
- Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2002 2:41 pm
- Location: Internet Donation: 5814 Posts
Hey,
Your school system, like all school systems that have net censorship, is using a automated-program block sensor, so it won't be "all-encompassing" when it comes to every site. This you should already know.
When it comes to your defence, you're still be in trouble, because like i said, the system isn't perfect and the administrators will take that into account. They'll be looking at "your" behavior, not the system. They can easily update the blocklist, so to them, that's not a problem. As for you, you obviously are breaching an agreement about using the web only for educational purposes, unless you happen to be using these sites for that educational purpose.
As for your other points, it just seems like you're pissed off at limitations. Nothing that's really important.
Lyrs.
Your school system, like all school systems that have net censorship, is using a automated-program block sensor, so it won't be "all-encompassing" when it comes to every site. This you should already know.
When it comes to your defence, you're still be in trouble, because like i said, the system isn't perfect and the administrators will take that into account. They'll be looking at "your" behavior, not the system. They can easily update the blocklist, so to them, that's not a problem. As for you, you obviously are breaching an agreement about using the web only for educational purposes, unless you happen to be using these sites for that educational purpose.
As for your other points, it just seems like you're pissed off at limitations. Nothing that's really important.
Lyrs.
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ZyZod
- Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 10:27 pm
- Location: Colorado
all im saying is that they let people play on a game website but they wont let me talk to people and read reviews? Thats pretty messed up.
If i bring it up to them, and they say no- then if they catch me going there- ill be in deep crap then. thats why im not going to them- not worth it.
If i bring it up to them, and they say no- then if they catch me going there- ill be in deep crap then. thats why im not going to them- not worth it.
>>For every positive, there will be two negatives<<
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Lyrs
- Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2002 2:41 pm
- Location: Internet Donation: 5814 Posts
Hey,
If you don't like people playing games, just report the sites to your administrator. I'm sure the adminstrator would be sympathetic to blocking game sites along with forums.
If you bring it up to them, they will most likely say no, because you are communicating with the outside through "improper" channels. The school is responsible for your actions should you happen to do something that will come back to the school system. It is their responsibility to look over you at your school, your teacher/the overseeing staff is/are your on-the-ground parent(s), and he/she will have to face allegations and charges of negligence and irresponsibility. It may result in a messy tangle, regardless what you did was naturally very innocent.
Certainly, they may check to see that you don't haven't tried to access these sites, and may take action against you if they do find evidence of you having done so. However, you did say you were adept that removing evidence, so really, you just have to decide if the benefits are really worth the consequences.
Before you venture out to though, consider that your network system monitors and logs all incoming and outgoing transactions, unless otherwise specified. In order to delete these logs, you will have to hack into your school DNS/ISP to change the logs. Doing so will naturally incriminlate your furthermore as these systems usually have some form of data protection routine in place, especially if the system logs student grades and other student information. So, just be careful.
You wouldn't want to face a expulsion for the rest of your week, and next year, you likely won't be allowed to access the web at school. Administrators have a way of wrapping these things to really try and punish you if you ever screw up.
Lyrs.
P.S. Have fun!
If you don't like people playing games, just report the sites to your administrator. I'm sure the adminstrator would be sympathetic to blocking game sites along with forums.
If you bring it up to them, they will most likely say no, because you are communicating with the outside through "improper" channels. The school is responsible for your actions should you happen to do something that will come back to the school system. It is their responsibility to look over you at your school, your teacher/the overseeing staff is/are your on-the-ground parent(s), and he/she will have to face allegations and charges of negligence and irresponsibility. It may result in a messy tangle, regardless what you did was naturally very innocent.
Certainly, they may check to see that you don't haven't tried to access these sites, and may take action against you if they do find evidence of you having done so. However, you did say you were adept that removing evidence, so really, you just have to decide if the benefits are really worth the consequences.
Before you venture out to though, consider that your network system monitors and logs all incoming and outgoing transactions, unless otherwise specified. In order to delete these logs, you will have to hack into your school DNS/ISP to change the logs. Doing so will naturally incriminlate your furthermore as these systems usually have some form of data protection routine in place, especially if the system logs student grades and other student information. So, just be careful.
You wouldn't want to face a expulsion for the rest of your week, and next year, you likely won't be allowed to access the web at school. Administrators have a way of wrapping these things to really try and punish you if you ever screw up.
Lyrs.
P.S. Have fun!