Instrumental Anime Project

Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] · Post by **Bakadeshi [AuN Studios]** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:32 pm

As a heads up, i'm still watching through the anime to see how i can use it in the vid. I can visualize some areas clearly, but I do not remember enough of the anime to just pick out episodes and such ;p

Hopefully i'll have some kindof WIP ready within a week or 2. I'm a lil slower than some with Editing.

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:50 pm

Bakadeshi [AuN Studios] wrote:Btw, that song was stuck in my head the whole day, thanks to your amv

After watching your final version of AR a couple of times for the updated opinion I had it stuck in my head for hours.

Speaking of which you guys should all check out the video as it kicks some serious ass.

and if you want to see a beautiful example of an instrumental video you should check out the one in my sig. This one fits the "Fantasia" theme better than any of ours in some ways.

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:05 pm

I think that Requiem song is so catchy that I've started hearing it in other places - like Lord of the Rings trailers and so forth.

DownWithPants - I'm not talking about shifting the video/audeo. I'm taking about rendering the video and re-combining it with the source audio file you used for the project, using VirtualDub to join them for a better sync than WMM will provide.

There are two new beta videos for possible inclusion into the project. They are both to techno music, but also have a pretty good editing style, so I thought I'd throw out a Request For Comments to the active participants (Otohiko, Pen-Pen, DownWithPants) and anyone else who has something to say as to whether or not to use them.

At this point I see two possible directions for the project:

"Animasia" - a project designed to emulate the sound and feel of Disney's Fantasia using anime as a visual source, following the original idea for this project.

"InstruMentality" - a project designed to showcase instrumental AMVs in general, with a much wider possible selection of music, reliant upon the lack of words, lyric sync, and the editing style of the videos included to remain unique as a project.

I'm fine with either, but I know that we really should decide on one or the other right now to put some clearer boundries on what will and won't go in. The two specific videos in question right now are going into a folder in the Outbox marked "Videos (Possible Inclusion)".

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I think there already is someone working on a four-cello arrangement of Metallica's "Nothing Else Matters".

The next version of ThirdStone will probably appear next weekend. I've almost finished the frame-by-frame edits, but still have to make the new titles and try to get a properly-synced render out of this thing.

The aspect-ratio thing on the website has now finally been updated (along with some other stuff on my site - I replaced my gallery of other folk's art with a gallery of my own recent drawings and changed the appearence of a few pages).

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:14 pm

And, since nearly all operas are in Italian, an opera song would be fine in that the vocals are going to be listened to for their sound and not their words. At least that's how I see it.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:53 am

oh, i had used virtualdub to attach the source WAV to the DV-AVI video anyways because WMM's AVI export completely fouls up the sound.

unless there's a filter that resynchs the video to the audio i'm not aware of, vdub won't help.

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:04 pm

Well, you guys can probably guess how I'm going to weigh in on this one but I might as well say it. While InstruMentality is a great name I don't like the idea of opening it up. The reason is that there are a lot of techno songs out there or instrumental versions of modern songs (using the same instruments I mean, Apocolyptica is a special case) and there are a lot of projects that take long mixes and divides them up, many of them are techno. I am also wary of effects videos, the children project is great but I wouldn’t be able to get a spot in a million years. I want this project to stay as one that doesn’t require editing know how as much as artistic vision. Another example, “A boy I knew” which I saw in DWP’s sig. It’s an incredible video (other than just a tad to much black and white) that really made me go, “wow, why aren’t there more videos like this?” It wasn’t technically to complex although it had a few nice effects, but it used a song that was slow and subtle which it seems like people are afraid to do these days. Were working in a very small sub genre that doesn’t get a lot of attention. The Wasteland is a good example of this. Among a certain segment of creators it is well known but it is much less known when it comes to the general community. We already have a lot of variety and more modern sounding pieces with “Kashmir,” “Deception of the Thrush” and “Third stone from the sun.” Just like Fantasia is unique among movies I would like this project to be unique among AMV’s not just the lack of lyric sync which tons of videos have even if they have lyrics (and which the megaman video does not) but a celebration of beautiful music. The techno videos are well done but really don’t fit in with the vision that I personally have for this project.

I just finished and editing spree and the video is coming along beautifully. I’m starting to look at Rhapsody in Blue for my next video (the one that was in Fantasia 2000.) Not sure about anime though.

I agree with Rose4Emily on the opera thing, after all, who knows Italian?

DownWithPants – have you tried dropping a line in the video help forum. AD can do some pretty crazy things with Avisynth. Maybe you could export the high quality vid in short sections to keep it in synch and then attach them all together. Anyways you might want to try asking the experts.

AznRAVEr1022 · Post by **AznRAVEr1022** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:14 pm

Hi, i just sent an e-mail to rose4emily about participating in your project. I still don't understand how this is going to work. Do i submit a whole video using whatever piece i desire, or do i submit a part of it and the end project is going to splice all the products together? in any case, the video i was working on now happened to fit your criteria perfectly. i was working on using Vesuvius by Frank Ticheli using End of Evangelion footage (i know EOE is waaaay overdone but i have a small collection of DVD's).

So if someone can speed me up on the details (IE deadline dates? length?) that would be greatly appreciated. thanx

-Chris

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:32 pm

We seem to be finding some consensus on the techno-video thing now, which is good because I need to update the webpage again if we're going to put in a specific ruling against it.

If this is the consensus I think the best thing to do would be to put up a suggestion for someone else to host the "extended-length club mix" Instrumental AMV project while we stick to the "eclectic melodically-driven Fantasia-inspired" Instrumental AMV project. I'd take on both myself, but that'd be a bit too much on my plate right now. I do like that "InstruMentality" name, though. Perhaps there could be an "InstruMentality: Animasia" and an "InstruMentality: Midnight Ravin'" allowing a differentiation between the two projects while still showing a connection of instrumental-ness, perhaps adding an "InstruMentality: Six-String Orchesta" if a lot of people want to use "Flying in a Blue Dream"-style electric guitar music. Then again, that idea might suck, so I'll let you all decide.

I moved the guideline page from amv.html to fantasia.html in the same folder, to make room for a page with screencaps and download links to some of my own AMVs, but there is a link from the new amv.html to fantasia.html to help anyone unaware of the switch to get to the page they want.

Pen-Pen: Gershwin - nice.

DownWithPants: Does WMM let you export as a large set of image files? That'd be frame-specific (albiet a huge hard-disk hog), and can be recompiled into a movie with a few different tools. I'm running out of suggestions, but that's one that's come to me.

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:40 pm

AznRaver: Everyone is submitting one (or perhaps more than one) full video with a song that is a: completely instrumental or very dominantly instrumental, b: unusual as compared to the rest of the AMV song fodder, c: somewhere between 2 and 13:37 minutes long (my bad on the really long one, Otohiko's bad on pointing out its precice length). I suppose a one-minute video might work, but it should still be one complete song (and a very short song at that, even Chopin's "Minute Waltz" takes over a minute and a half in most performances).

The overall length of the project is basically being determined by how much video is submitted. The cutoff time is likely going to be some time after school breaks (as in late-June, early July), but has not really been settled on yet.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:06 pm

hrm, wow that was almost right on cue -- the creator of the video pen pen and i have been pimping enters right after pen pen's latest pimpage.

aznraver: if you would like to submit your "a boy i knew..." as well, i think we'd all (well at least pen pen and I would) love to see it on the project.
and as rose4emily said, probably full song or movement, which is how it was done in the original fantasia.

as for my piece, i think i might just redo the timings in wmm so it fits better. will probably take a few days.