Pink Floyd's The Wall > NGE?

[CaTaClYsM]

The underlying theme of isn't ALL there is, but it's all that MATTERS! And you did look at that list didn't you? It wasn't just about destroying the walls that seperate humans, but they were both through the perspectives of an indevidual who had lost his sense of self. THAT is what makes it distinctive, and makes the similarities worth mentioning in the first place.

[SarahtheBoring]

HBZ, do you know what "flamebait" is? Yeah. Look into it.

People, if you're THAT bored I can find something for you to do.

[CaTaClYsM]

And I can tell you what to do with your suggestion.

[Shun]

I'm going to have to side with HBZ on this one, but i would like to bring one or two points up first

The theme of the 2 stories are infact the same, as you both have mentioned already. However it is HBZ who has stated the truth. The theme is not what makes the entire story and therefor can not be the only deciding factor in which story is told the best.

Take this interesting coincedence of 2 revenge movies being released last Friday.

Kill Bill- Group cuts down their target and the people around the target. Group assumes target is dead. Target isnt dead and comes back to kill them all.

Punisher- Same thing. The motive of revenge was carried out in both movies. Hassle's family was killed and they assumed they killed him as well. However, they didnt, and he came back to kill them all.

Just based on the boxoffice its fairly obvious that Kill Bill turned out to be the better of the two. They obviously didnt get the same amount of money, publicity, ect based on the theme being the same. Kill Bill delivered a better story, developing around the theme and forming the story as a whole.

Two stories with the same theme can not be compared souly on that fact. As HBZ has said, everything has been done before. But just because something was first dosent meen it was the best. Same ideas manifest into better stories.

My 2 cents

[HeartbreakerByZep]

The underlying theme of isn't ALL there is, but it's all that MATTERS! And you did look at that list didn't you? It wasn't just about destroying the walls that seperate humans, but they were both through the perspectives of an indevidual who had lost his sense of self. THAT is what makes it distinctive, and makes the similarities worth mentioning in the first place.

The list of simmilarities that you made? There are more parallels than just that. I can't beleive that you think the main theme is all that matters. That's absurdly illogical. A story is set up to do more things that just one, while the main theme is the main purpose, many other things are also usually intended to stay with you, or atleast have you experience. I don't even want to argue with someone who thinks main theme is all that matters. Especailly when comparing two stories, in that kind of situation, more than in any other, it is important to look at the multiple other important factors.

[Harlock7876]

I read the topic name differently than what was expected. I read it in a Linux state of mind and thought you were trying to pass "The Wall" into the NGE series, like the whole synching Dark Side Of The Moon with The Wizard Of Oz. Maybe there's a tie in between "The Wall" and NGE. All we have to do is get the timing down properly and I'm sure there's a link!

But you're ultimately comparing apples with oranges. I here apples are good for graphics, but I like being able to open up my orange and modify components easily.

[AtomicWeezleman]

I read the topic name differently than what was expected. I read it in a Linux state of mind and thought you were trying to pass "The Wall" into the NGE series, like the whole synching Dark Side Of The Moon with The Wizard Of Oz. Maybe there's a tie in between "The Wall" and NGE. All we have to do is get the timing down properly and I'm sure there's a link!

But you're ultimately comparing apples with oranges. I here apples are good for graphics, but I like being able to open up my orange and modify components easily.

damn, havent done that for a while , hkmm pink floyd and nge eh?? i think theres was something on the directors comentry of EoE about that, 9that scene where all the people are marching, just like the hammers......... hmm)

[Mroni]

Are you guys implying that roger waters is the real life shinji because he sure is a whiney little bitch so much of a whiner that the rest of Pink floyd got rid of him.


Mr Oni

[Daio Kaji]

okay, this debate made me actually go out and see Pink Floyd's The Wall

i've never watched it until now and i can definately see the parallels that people are pointing out with the whole destroying the walls that seperate humankind, except that in The Wall, the wall is broken and we all work together, but in Eva, the walls are literally torn down and we all blend together, but it's only a transition into what will be, but as it turned out, Shinji saw that the way the 'walls' were torn down was no good, the real walls we need to tear down are the type of walls that were torn down in pink floyd's the wall. emotional walls that keep us away from each other and ourselves... so yeah, eventually the same message through different medians

but i gotta admit, IMHO, by comparison, Evangelion freakin' feeds you the answers while Pink Floyd's The Wall challenges you to think outside the box a little more... but i like both of them, i can watch the wall with friends in less than two hours, or i can watch NGE by myself (for the most part) and enjoy all the additional layers that NGE offers in addition to the central core concepts

[CaTaClYsM]

Like giant robots, whiny shinji, religious alegory, and fights with large monsters. Also, toward the end of the wall, there is a drawing of a face that looks almost exactly like the face of the first angel.