Digital Effect vids vs. Simple Digital Effects or none vids.

genestarwind21122 · Post by **genestarwind21122** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:09 am

godix wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:Effect's don't make a video. If you look at the top videos with effects, they arent on the top BECAUSE of the effects... they are on top because they use the effect's to compliment their design. I know a ton of videos with better effects than Euphoria, but the videos themselves suck
As far as I can tell Euphoria is loved for it's effects and nothing else by most people. Which makes sense because the effects so overpower the story that it takes two or three viewings to even realize there is a story. I personally love Euphoria but the biggest influence it's had in my own work is to make sure that the only time I throw around tons of pointless effects is when the video is pointless to begin with. It like the old advise to writers, if you have a point then KISS but if you're just wasting time then make it as flowery as you like.

As a counter-example to your thesis, consider Elvis Vs Anime. No meaning at all to the video really but it's still a good video specifically because of it's effects (well, effect. There really was just the one).

Elvis vs. Anime it doesn't have a meaning but it is a complete parody of the original video. That's why it works for that reason if you ever read her comment section.

Bote · Post by **Bote** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:38 pm

I swear if I was Koop I'd patent the name "Euphoria" when it's up to this forum.

The first post that Zarxrax made completely explains the popularity of "effects" videos. The effects in such videos only add more good feelings to the rest.

E*******=great story, great emotion, catchy song, original anime/song choice, original clip choice (manipulated with ep. order). Above all that he added original, shinny looking effects in order to sync almost without errors.

That video has everything! That is why 1000's of people like it.

MJ wrote:The song does it for me 100%

It is a catchy song with nice rhytm & lyrics . 60% at least enjoyed this song very much.

nailz100 wrote:I kinda like when the music flows with the video.

Whoever disagrees that the music didn't flow with the video doesn't have the eyes to look nor ears to hear.

Bote wrote:I kinda like when the videos is edited to the bone

This was edited to the bone! So, pawns me completely.

Many people wrote:I dislike to see so many shiny pointless effects when a video doesn't have the story

Not pointless, they add to the video. As for story...anyone ever followed the lyrics?

Anyone ever tried to watch the clips (hugs, kisses, crying)?

Sure, everyone got

ed with the effecting and mainly likes it cause of the effects since they're the most obvious thing to follow in the video. When I stopped watching it cause it got boring, I rented RahXephon and got shocked after the series finished(I thought the series sucked honestly) when I comprehended what is actually Euphoria. No wonder it is the top of the AMV world. It's the complete synthesis of almost everything good in AMV's.

IMO Effects should be used whenever the creator thinks they'll add the overall feel of the video. I mainly like high-edited, effect videos. The reason...timed good, showed creators skills and what's more important...the creator got through hell while making it and I admire such people. People of strong willpower and imagination.

Effects aren't necessary, but they can do so much more for the video if used other than the video being simple fading/cutting. Of course...you yourself need to know when it's fitting, enough etc.

Toxic Shade · Post by **Toxic Shade** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:52 pm

Otohiko wrote:I tend to stay away from effects. Technically, I tend to stay away from anything, unless I really need it. And if I do need it, I'll cut corners like there's no tomorrow.

And it does all I need just fine. The maxim is: honor sufficiency.

I love effects videos, don't get me wrong, but considering the effort these things take - and for what gain - makes me stay away from them as much as I can.

When I learn easier ways to do them, or bump into something where I absolutely need something funky - alright, then we'll see...

Amen to that. I tried to create a moving Sepia snake that would sink to the drum beats in the video. So much for that idea. I created 320 image stills with Sepia going around the screen.

Koop certainly had plenty of time to make those effects. I know how to do them, but I certainly don't have the time.

As for effect driven and un-effect driven, Center of the Sun is my favorite video in the whole world.

And there is nothing but fades. 8)

Toxic Shade · Post by **Toxic Shade** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:15 pm

flint_the_dwarf wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:I think the results are blantantly obvious here.

BOOBIES GET TEH DOWNLOADS.
Alright, that's it... I've decided what my masterpiece is going to be. I'm going to digitally add boobies onto dancing Vash and have that play for two or three minutes with... Bring Me to Life.

I think we have our next VCA champion. Add In the End remix and your set.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:25 pm

Didn't we just argue this last week?

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:47 pm

dwchang wrote:Didn't we just argue this last week?

It never ends because in the end, it doesn't even matter.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:50 pm

Castor Troy wrote:
dwchang wrote:Didn't we just argue this last week? :-?

;)
It never ends because in the end, it doesn't even matter.

That, and some idiot always has to bring it to life.

Koopiskeva · Post by **Koopiskeva** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:15 pm

trythil wrote:That, and some idiot always has to bring it to life.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:26 pm

I hate you, all of you, so much. This thread needs to dieplzkthnx.

:O

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:07 pm

dwchang wrote:Didn't we just argue this last week?

Every week.