Hm hm hmmmmm....

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:18 pm

And Kai? And like... a bunch of other people?

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As for 'alternative', I think there was a definition before... crap, I forgot most of the bands that were brought up, but basically think 90's not-too-heavy, somewhat-punk-influenced somewhat-pop-like rock music...

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:28 pm

No, not Nailz. He's the first to admit that he doesn't get involved with the intricacies of music. He just has similar tastes to you.

But yeah, definitely Kai... I can't think of too many more though, Oto, can you? So don't roll your damn eyes at me.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:31 pm

i have a fetish for foreign music, but i don't think that qualifies as being hardcore

Chef · Post by **Chef** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:47 pm

could someone give more examples of modern(er) hardcore?

looking at farlo's little list...i like rollins band (and subsequently black flag)...

Vlad86 · Post by **Vlad86** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:51 pm

Otohiko wrote:And Kai? And like... a bunch of other people?

I don't have to name everyone do I?

Yeah, the resident, umm what do you guys prefer to be called? Metal frequent listeners and appreciators?

Well, anyways, you have made your presence quite well known.
And one more guy: Set Abominae

Did I scare him off or something?

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:56 pm

Yeah, where has Set been?

atrophiedXlungs · Post by **atrophiedXlungs** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:57 pm

el_farlo wrote: Today's hardcore bands are tighter and much heavier, and can be divided into two general types (usually called East Coast or West Coast, for where the band is, but it's not always consistent). The first type are smoother, with heavy grooves that flow, with a vocalist that sings (or at least tries to) or shouts. The second type is heavier, with tight, stop-and-go rhythms and harsh vocals that are a cross between shouts and low screams.

Not necessarily. Personally, I don't use that "East coast- West coast" description, because it gets too confusing...especially since there are plenty of bands from both coasts that sound like they're from the other, and plenty of bands that live nowhere near any coast, or not even in this country. Also, your "first type" sounds like emo-core...which in my opinion, isn't good, because every band sounds like every other band(Poison the Well sounds just like Atreyu sounds just like A Static Lullaby sounds just like Beloved sounds just like Hopesfall...and so on and so forth). I personally try to describe a band based on how it sounds...usually, I also include where they're from, simply because it's like a rule. Of course, then you have the problem of getting caught up in labels...but eh, that's what the firebombs are here for.

Examples:

Sworn Enemy - New York Beatdown hardcore(...I don't like them. The ThugXcore shit is just....lame. The same goes for Hatebreed).
Bane - The Boston old-school band.
Vitamin X - sXe(straight edge, for the uninitiated) thrash hardcore from the Netherlands.
Melt-Banana - Japanese No-Wave.
SOB - A prime representative of the "Japanoize" catagory...thrashy, poorly recorded(usually in someone's basement), and more noise than you can shake a stick at.
Discordance Axis - New Jersey grindcore.
Give Up the Ghost(formerly American Nightmare) - they have an old-school sound, but really depressing lyrics...which really isn't something that's typical of bands that sound like that.

And so on and so forth.

ithaqua · Post by **ithaqua** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:43 am

DOA

Seriously, how can you have a description of hardcore without them? It's their word!

Another example of classic canuck punk being pushed aside for no good reason.

Chef · Post by **Chef** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:45 am

ithaqua wrote:DOA

Seriously, how can you have a description of hardcore without them? It's their word!

Another example of classic canuck punk being pushed aside for no good reason.

there's your reason.

i couldnt pass it up.

ithaqua · Post by **ithaqua** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:46 am

There's no emoticon for flipping you the bird.
Damn.