The Magic of Images

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The Magic of Images

Post by TaranT » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:23 am

As long as people are getting Phi-lo-so-phi-cal....

This is a long article maybe of interest only to art students, but Paglia has some points that are relevant to AMVs. The article is here. Selected quotes follow (emphasis is mine).
Education has failed to adjust to the massive transformation in Western culture since the rise of electronic media. The shift from the era of the printed book to that of television, with its immediacy and global reach, was prophesied by Marshall McLuhan in his revolutionary Understanding Media, which at its publication in 1964 spoke with visionary force to my generation of college students in the United States. But those of us who were in love with the dazzling, darting images of TV and movies, as well as with the surging rhythms of new rock music, had been given through public education a firm foundation in the word and the book....

Interest in and patience with long, complex books and poems have alarmingly diminished not only among college students but college faculty in the U.S. It is difficult to imagine American students today, even at elite universities, gathering impromptu at midnight for a passionate discussion of big, challenging literary works like Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamazov—a scene I witnessed in a recreation room strewn with rock albums at my college dormitory in upstate New York in 1965....Young people today are flooded with disconnected images but lack a sympathetic instrument to analyze them as well as a historical frame of reference in which to situate them....

The extraordinary technological aptitude of the young comes partly from their now-instinctive ability to absorb information from the flickering TV screen, which evolved into the glassy monitor of the omnipresent personal computer. Television is reality for them: nothing exists unless it can be filmed or until it is rehashed onscreen by talking heads. The computer, with its multiplying forums for spontaneous free expression from e-mail to listservs and blogs, has increased facility and fluency of language but degraded sensitivity to the individual word and reduced respect for organized argument, the process of deductive reasoning. The jump and jitter of U.S. commercial television have demonstrably reduced attention span in the young. The Web too, with its addictive unfurling of hypertext, encourages restless acceleration.

...Creative energy is flowing instead into animation, video games, and cyber-tech, where the young are pioneers. Character-driven feature films, on the other hand, have steadily fallen in quality since the early nineties, partly because of Hollywood's increasing use of computer graphics imaging (CGI) and special effects....

Computer enhancement has spread to still photography in advertisements, fashion pictorials, and magazine covers, where the human figure and face are subtly elongated or remodeled at will. Caricature is our ruling mode. In the last decade in the us, there has also been a relentless speeding up of editing techniques, using flashing, even blinding, strobe-like effects that make it impossible for the eye to linger over any image or even to fully absorb it....

The visual environment for the young, in short, has become confused, fragmented, and unstable. Students now understand moving but not still images. The long, dreamy, contemplative takes of classic Hollywood studio movies or postwar European art films are long gone....

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Post by azulmagia » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:52 am

John Ralston Saul wrote:The first sign of an aggressive human reaction to this capture of our visual imagination came with the abrupt appearance and growth of comic strips....A reasonable projection would have been that, as the cinema progressed, these crude, manual moving stories would have made less and less sense. The arrival of talkies in 1927 should have ended the matter once and for all. Instead, one year later Mickey Mouse made his first appearance in an animated cartoon. The success of this movie made no sense at all. Why would anyone watch an obviously unbelievable-looking mouse when there were image of real filmed people?.....That Mickey Mouse is still [1992] the most famous man in the world merely confirms that Disney was more important for the image than Picasso or any other modern painter. They have all had to struggle against the prison of the perfect image. Disney actually released the image from prison.

In the midst of this revolution, a number of painters turned to the cartoon. Andy Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein, for example, played with these images, but only from the context and vocabulary of official art. The effect on the art experts was shock. They concluded that these painters were revolutionaries....[Lichtenstein] was pushed to paint blown-up versions of comic strips when, in 1960, one of his sons pointed to a Mickey Mouse comic book and said, "I bet you can't paint as good as that." He painted an outsized picture of Donald Duck.....copying comic strips made him rich and famous. This process had to turn, however, on one shared assumption - that Lichtenstein was an artist, while the cartoonists were not....The art experts with their client artists are increasingly the allies of the television sitcom and of imprisoned reality...The more sophisticated the controlling images become, the more likely is it that individuals will seek reassurrance in increased levels of fear.

Voltaire's Bastards: Ch. 18 - Images of Immortality

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Post by trythil » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:58 am

I've read her article, and it's odd...

One part of me believes she makes some good points, especially with regards to the inability of the human eye to linger over the fast-paced images so prevalent in modern visual work, and the potential effects of that imagery on early cognitive development.

Another part of me wishes that people like this would stop pining for "the good old days".

I guess I'm "confused, fragmented, and unstable"...

Though, I do like her examples of memorable works. Perhaps, someday, a trip to an art museum will be in order for me.

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Post by trythil » Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:02 am

...and heh. All these multi-editor projects...

DDR, AniMix, MI are three that come readily to mind. All involve some concepts or visual techniques that the author lambasts in significant quantities.

I feel good about contributing to the cultural decay of society :)

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Post by TaranT » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:52 am

trythil wrote:I've read her article, and it's odd...

One part of me believes she makes some good points, especially with regards to the inability of the human eye to linger over the fast-paced images so prevalent in modern visual work, and the potential effects of that imagery on early cognitive development.

Another part of me wishes that people like this would stop pining for "the good old days".

I guess I'm "confused, fragmented, and unstable"...

Though, I do like her examples of memorable works. Perhaps, someday, a trip to an art museum will be in order for me.

I've read quite a lot of her essays, even heard her speak at the University a few years ago. She's not the kind who wishes for the good old days. I think she is concerned that educated people are no longer trained to think about events, persons, etc. Life is only what's flashing through their vision minute by minute. "Stuff" like desires, motivation, history don't even enter into the picture.

And of course, the AMVs, especially those near the top of the charts, will reflect the style that most people like to see. I've done my share of those, but don't mind doing the complete opposite either.

Another good quote:
Camille Paglia wrote:My reply is simply that interpretation relies upon the idea that western culture is a complex combination of the Judeo-Christian tradition and the Greco-Roman. These two traditions are in conflict and so we have this terrible tension going on in our culture, particularly about sex and aggression. Much of our artwork -- the titanic achievements of Michelangelo or Picasso or Rubens -- is wrestling with the inner conflicts of our tradition. So the greatness of western art is not due to western myopia -- it is due to the neuroticism that's built into the western brain.
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azulmagia:
That was an interesting read although I don't get the references to fear and aggression.

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Post by Nightowl » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:05 pm

OBVIOUSLY she hasn't seen Playground Love or The Hound ; )

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Post by rubyeye » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:03 pm

Sounds alot like the editorial I found on the decline of Metal Music in America.

I perfectly agree and understand what she starts off saying. But some of what she states I could argue against.

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Post by NME » Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:50 pm

Fuckwads.

Talk all about music videos and editing.

Music videos are to "blame", they're the reason for all this.
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