Awsome Idea for 3ds max and an amv... but I need help

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Awsome Idea for 3ds max and an amv... but I need help

Post by Angel's Shadow » Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:14 am

First off does anyone here know anything about 3ds Max R3?
More specifically how to create 2d interfaces in a 3d environment.

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Post by bum » Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:22 pm

your best shot would be to find a gmax or 3dsmax message board. oh and, read the help files, thier prety extencive, i doubt theirs any feature that they dont mention

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Post by nemesisENFORCER » Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:17 am

i know a little bit of max (because im in a game design class at my school)and my roomate know a lot. so if you got some questions i can try and help you out

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Post by varxtis » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:12 pm

Sweat... then I'll try and ask.
Ok... .have ever watched the sci-fi channel or Earth: Final Conflict?
When it comes to Sci-Fi Channel, about 1 yr ago they had this thing going on were the "comming up next" cut scenes and commercials looked like a 2d interface (I.E. 2 o'clock was activated and a rollout or extention was created to explain the upcomming program) But it was in a 3d environment so, when 3 o'clock was activated the 2o'clock schedule would retreate to the background or be shuffled behind the 3 o'clock shedule. something like that
when it comes to Earth: Final Conflict, they had these navigation screens (holographic looking) that would appear in order to navigation the ships. They were kind of like touch screen holographs that controlled the ship.

cofused yet? lol. well, any reply and help is appreciated! thank you

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Post by Zarxrax » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:35 pm

Something like that would be quite simple to create in Adobe After Effects.
I don't know a thing about 3d programs, but it seems like you should just be able to create a plane and apply a texture or whatever onto it, and make it semi transparent...

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Post by madbunny » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:50 pm

x2 on what Zarxrax said.

It's been a while since I moved to Lightwave but...

Create your planes, but adjust your render output, so you don't get realistic light shading, if all you want is moving image mattes.

Also, since you are rendering your clip in a nice nifty made for rendering program, you might as well make your alpha mattes at the same time so you can do your transparency. I can't remember if you can render them at the same time, or if you need another render pass...

You could also just set your background as a chroma key color.

Obviously if you have your animation sequences (control panels, talking heads, or whatever) then you might want to apply them in Max instead of doing it post with premiere or after effects.
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Post by nemesisENFORCER » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:53 pm

confused me i havent done anything along those lines in max or maya but i could ask my roomate he might know about that kind of stuff... i dont know where he is right now but when he gets back ill post

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Post by nemesisENFORCER » Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:32 am

hey i talked to my roomate and he wanted to know why you wanted to use 3d max for that kind of situation?

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Post by Angel's Shadow » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:25 pm

lol... Long time no hear from me... huh!
OK, To start out with. I've never really used After Effects! lol. I have it. But I'm new to it completely! I want to add character to my video and what better way to do that, than to give it atmosphere or dimension. thats why I want to do this panel/layer/control panel thing. in a 3d environment.

I know this next thing is going to be a bit off toppic, but... I just bought the new edition of New Type USA. (Awsome magazine) It had it's usual free dvd. this series is called Kaleido Star. at the end of the episode it has a (what I like to call) memories on film animation/effect. Basically, this is where they make is look like you're watching the actual film (negatives) in motion. with the left and right black colums with white squares. I want to know how to create that. I made a close to perfect representation on premiere... but I have not learned the technique of animating sequences yet. (I.E. creating a motion version of what I made) anybody any good at that?

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Post by madbunny » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:58 pm

Angel's Shadow wrote: Kaleido Star. at the end of the episode it has a (what I like to call) memories on film animation/effect. Basically, this is where they make is look like you're watching the actual film (negatives) in motion. with the left and right black colums with white squares. I want to know how to create that.
Probably would have gotten a more comprehensive answer in a new topic. Anyway, here goes: It doesn't look all that hard.
Motion settings on a couple layers for the filmstrip effects to get the jitter, and some filters for the old film effect on your clip.
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