using divx/wmv etc as source

bum · Post by **bum** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:45 pm

mckeed wrote:you need to ratchet down the quality for the mjpeg. Also cut the resolution by half.

ok, unless MJPEG is gona get me files down to about 200MB with kindadecent quality, then i'd rather keep with Divx

Scintilla wrote:And taking only the clips you need wouldn't hurt either.

meh, it makes it alot easier to plan amv's, and to make them (esspecialy when your not the hardcore planing type)

mckeed · Post by **mckeed** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:50 pm

well....with half resolution your files size should be 1/4 if you keep the current quality level. you said 2GB right? that would make each 500MB which is a little more than double of a nice divx. Then you get frame accuracy, quick renders and searching through files. I know divx is a pain if you decide to scan backwards through a clip. Mess with the settings to see what you think is an appropriate quality level.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:40 am

Can you do the Swap Method if your MJPEGs and AVS scripts are different resolutions? I thought I tried that once and it didn't work. Anyone else try it before?

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:41 am

It depends on what editor you're using. Premiere Pro has a really stupid way of handling resolution changes... if yopu want the final video to be 640x480 or 720x480, and you work with 320x240 clips, then they'll only take up the central quarter of the preview window and the rest will be entirely black... but fortunately this is a purely cosmetic issue while you're actually working on the video and it won't affect the final export.

bum · Post by **bum** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:21 pm

im just wondering, did adobe try to make something beter or worse than premier 6/6.5 when they worked on premier pro ?

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:09 am

the Black Monarch wrote:It depends on what editor you're using. Premiere Pro has a really stupid way of handling resolution changes... if you want the final video to be 640x480 or 720x480, and you work with 320x240 clips, then they'll only take up the central quarter of the preview window and the rest will be entirely black...

How is that stupid? When I'm working with 320x240 clips or stills, I expect them to show up as 320x240 and not as automatically stretched to whatever the project's resolution is.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:29 am

Really? I expect them to be automatically resized... what really sucks is when you try to import an image that's a higher resolution than your project, and the sides get cut off

mckeed · Post by **mckeed** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:30 am

It makes it smaller so you see exactly what you get with that clip. Not streaching it to make it look worse.

To answer bum's question. It looks like they are trying to move premiere pro to a higher level as far as usage is concerned. Like they are probally catering to a more professional enviornment where things are done a certain way. They will probally come out with a consumer grade video editing which will be a premire like product I would imagine, but stripped down or whatever. Premiere Pro works and looks like after effects does now which is different that how premire used to do things. It happens, products evolve and change. You have to remember that Premiere isn't made for people like us. It never will be since too few of us actually buy the software, and to put it bluntly, they don't want to have us buy it as they want to make money off the professionals and not have to listen to us video enthuiasts. I like many of the new things they did with pro as far as interface and new features, but they got rid of a few things that I REALY liked which i use very often so I don't know if I will switch anytime soon.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:48 pm

I find opacity keyframing to be infinitely superior to rubberbands. The timeline window will be missed, but I find myself missing it less and less each day. Cropping on export can be easily replaced by cropping in Virtualdub. And those are the only things that I've really noticed missing...

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:43 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:The timeline window will be missed, but I find myself missing it less and less each day.

What the hell? The Timeline window's still there every time <b>I</b> fire up Premiere Pro...