haw much free space do i need to make a video?

nemesis310 · Post by **nemesis310** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:10 pm

about how much space will i need to have available on my hard drive before making a video? with dvd episodes taking up more than a gig each i know i will need a lot but whats the most i might possibly need? im already fairly certain i will have to buy a second hard drive but i just want to make sure

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:19 pm

That depends on how you go about it. Read AD's and ErMaC's guide from the main site - it tells you of the methods which you can use to approach your editing.

One methods merely involves copying the .VOB files onto your hard-drive and creating an AVS script which will allow you to export them into the editing program. Yea, that will take over 2GB per DVD; but that's the easy (or, rather, space-conserving) method.

The method I prefer, however, because it makes it easier to find and easier to manage footage, is ripping clips into HuffYUV AVI files. That takes up substantially more. For my last video, I believe I had about 40 minutes worth of clips taking up over 25GB.

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So, it depends on how you do it, but I strongly recommend you have plenty of HD space available. Personally, I'd give myself at least 15-20GB even for a rather small project.

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:21 pm

it all depends on what your doing. I have 440gb total on my computer and can afford to rip and use several animes at a time for one or multiple videos. A 26 ep series (examle: Eva) takes up about 30gb. a 13 ep series (example: Hellsing) takes up about 15-16gb. It all depends on how much footage you are going to use.

Pwolf

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:24 pm

There's no real hard-and-fast requirement besides "a lot".

My current disk usage for one project, which is using a 2-hour movie and 26 ~25-minute made-for-TV episodes, all ripped from DVD with no audio tracks:

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trythil@lothlann fiction $ pwd
/media/movies/amv-resources/fiction
trythil@lothlann fiction $ du -h | tail -n 1
52G     .

A lot of people don't even approach 52 gibibytes of data files. A lot more people exceed that. All depends on what you're doing and how you're doing it. If I were using a switch method similar to what is outlined in the guides, I'd probably have a few gibibytes more of data.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:26 pm

As an aside, I'm still yet to be convinced to get into AVS editing. It looks like a good idea on the surface, with benefits, but editing-wise - I still haven't grasped its' merits. Thus to VDub my scripts go, and to Huffy they get ripped...

...oh well. I'll go over to the dark side one day. Maybe when my box is faster

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:30 pm

trythil wrote:A lot of people don't even approach 52 gibibytes of data files. A lot more people exceed that. All depends on what you're doing and how you're doing it. If I were using a switch method similar to what is outlined in the guides, I'd probably have a few gibibytes more of data.

I've edited three ways:

1. Straight from the VOBs using an AVS script.
2. VOBs --> HuffYUV clips and dropping the HuffYUVs into Premiere
3. Bait-and-Switch using MJPEG (and outlined in the guides)

I've found that the third option takes up the least space, actually. HuffYUV is a big format, and you may want to clip an entire scene in order to grab smaller segments from it later. Unless you're precisely clipping what you need, you're going to end up taking a lot of space. My source files for RNITTBS took up 3 DVDs, my source files for CAA took up 4 or 5...

Plus you have temp files and all that.

Something else to consider when you want to save space: you don't need every chapter of a DVD. SmartRipper lets you choose what chapters you need, and so you can get rid of the OP/ED/NextEpisodePreview, as well as any chapters that don't have clips you need. Fewer chapters ripped = more space saved.

-DOKool

p.s. Shouldn't this be in Video Help?

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:33 pm

Otohiko wrote:As an aside, I'm still yet to be convinced to get into AVS editing. It looks like a good idea on the surface, with benefits, but editing-wise - I still haven't grasped its' merits. Thus to VDub my scripts go, and to Huffy they get ripped...

...oh well. I'll go over to the dark side one day. Maybe when my box is faster

Preprocessing.

More specifically:

Footage cleanup and modification can be done _before_ editing, which always produces better results. The obvious specific cases are inverse telecine and deinterlacing, but other things such as sharpening, reducing luma/chroma artifacts, HSV tweaks, etc are much more easily accomplished pre-production. Also, by doing these tasks pre-production, you can tweak things with finer granularity than you could by doing it on the finished product.

As an example, let's say you're working with a few different sources. After some experimentation you decide that source A looks best slightly sharpened with saturation set to +104%. Source B may need some hue-shifting to get it looking right. Sources A and B inverse telecine nicely, but source C has terrible issues with odd telecine patterns and requires adaptive deinterlacing.

Ideally, you'd like to perform all these changes before you start editing. Tools like AVISynth provide a very powerful, simple, and attractive way to achieve this.

I wish somebody would port it to the GNU/Linux system, or that I knew how to do it :/

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:38 pm

Ah. That does make a fair amount of sense now; I think a couple of months back that would've been pretty much plain techgibberish to me.

I might try that soon then. If anything, mostly for the space; and the ability to re-edit your AMV without keeping gigs upon gigs of AVI's on your hard drive forever sounds pretty interesting too. But, TBH, I've been perfectly happy with Huffy so far.

Bait-and-Switch sounds attractive, but, as ever, I have the fear of f*#$ing something up in the process and having the whole video go down the crapper. That's probably the reason why I've stuck to Huffy so much. It seems more... well... concrete.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:40 pm

trythil wrote:Preprocessing.

The more work you do *before* you actually start editing (for example, scripting out your vid so you know which scenes you rip, cleaning footage, etc), the easier the editing process goes.

-DOKool

Seijin_Dinger · Post by **Seijin_Dinger** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:03 pm

when I started editing I was doing it on a 10GB hard drive