The Three Rules Of Three

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The Three Rules Of Three

Post by ryouga42 » Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:33 am

I'm sure this is a great first post. ;)

I gathered ~30GB of AMVs from Sakuracon '03, and over the course of a couple months my friend and I went over and separated the good from the bad.

In this time, we came up with what we call the Three Rules of Three for making an AMV. The basic idea is that a video must pull from at least one of the three rules, in each rule. I'll explain in more detail after I explain the three rules.


First Rule: Sync.
Sync is *essential* to a video. Without sync you have nothing. There are, of course, three kinds of sync.

Beatsync. Beatsync is not necessarily synchronizing scene changes to beats. There are other things covered by this, including synchronizing scene changes to music, or synchronizing what is going on in a scene to the music. This does not cover lipsync. We'll get to that later.

Wordsync. Wordsync, or lyric sync, depending on how you look at it, is the art of making what is happening in your video relate to what the words in the song are saying. This can be totally flipped, ie someone singing about happiness and peace while people are getting their heads blown off for comedic effect.

Lipsync. Well, this one's pretty self explanatory, synchronizing lips to words sung. However, realize that there is a middle ground that you DO NOT WANT with this rule. Basically, if you use just a couple of scenes with lipsync, that's okay. If you use a LOT of it, that's good too. (To a point.) But if you only lipsync HALF the time, and the other half the mouths moving don't have any relation to what's going on, that's bad.

Okay! Moving on to Rule Two.

Rule Two: Concept.
Concept is also essential to an AMV. Note that this is Rule Two, which means that concept will probably not save you if your sync sucks. But it's possible. There are three things you can do with Concept. And this rule cheats, because you really need two things off it.

Have a theme. Your AMV should have a theme if possible. Something that ties the clips together in some way. Random scenes are not good. (Yes, a concept ties the clips together. That's what this rule IS.)

Tell a story. Alternately, instead of having a theme, you can tell a story with the clips. Maybe you think that Yui from Fushigi Yuugi is mistreated horribly. (Ballad of Yui Hongo) Well, you can tell that story with your AMV. Sure, this is a bit like having a theme, but it's different because it's a progressive theme instead of just something tying it together.

Do these things in a unique way. This is the rule that cheats. While it is possible for you to do one of these in a way that's just like everyone else's, it obviously will not be conducive to people remembering your video. I actually have a Dragon Ball Z/Linkin Park video that I kept out of that massive pile, because it was a very unique one. (Out of the pile of trash, there was one diamond. ;) )

Finally...

Third Rule: Opinion.
Opinion is sort of hard to shoot for. It's a direct RESULT of the first two, rather than something YOU do when you make the video. However, it is just as essential, and you should think about what opinions you may be evoking in your viewers. (And no, "This video rocks!!" does not count. But it is nice, isn't it?)

Makes you want to watch the anime. This is one of the marks of a good video. If watching your video causes someone to say, "Wow, I really need to see that anime!" then you did a good job on it. So, to shoot for this one, try to present the best clips possible from the anime you're using. Note that this doesn't work if you're doing a Various video with more than about two or three anime.

Makes you like the song. Assuming you didn't already like it of course - Enigma is a good example of this. (The video, that is.) If I had heard Frozen first outside that video, I probably wouldn't have liked it that much. But since the video was tied so well to it, I ended up liking the music more. To achieve this effect, you should try to tie your clips as closely as possible to the music, and your effects should also fit the music.

Just plain "fits". This is kind of a catch-all for the videos that fall through the other two. After all, maybe you've already seen the anime, and like the song! In this case, evoking the feeling that the music was made to fit the anime is the goal here. If you've succeeded in applying the tips in the last two rules, then this opinion will naturally follow.

An AMV usually has to take at least one of the rules from each of these. For Sync, usually two - but it's not necessary all the time (after all, what about a song without lyrics? How can you word- or lipsync to that?) I say that Rule Two cheats, but it really doesn't - you can make a unique video that doesn't have much of a theme. However, if you're choosing one of the other two, you'll probably want to make it unique, just to stand out. As for Opinion, it's hard to gauge except by having people watch.

Which brings me to my next (and final) point!

If you are just starting out, SHOW YOUR VIDEO TO OTHER PEOPLE BEFORE YOU RELEASE IT. Look over it yourself first of course, but get suggestions! Comments and criticism are NEVER BAD! Do you know why people cringe when they see "This is my first video..."? It's because too many people DO NOT DO THIS. They simply release what they have without touching it up, fine-tuning, etc.

Once your timeline is full, you are NOT DONE. Go back and look it over, preferably with someone. Make sure you are happy with every scene! If you find yourself saying, at any time, "Well, this scene isn't that great, but..." stop right there and find a better scene. It exists, or you wouldn't be saying that. If it truly was the best or only scene that could fit there, you would not say that to yourself. That uneasy feeling is your subconscious telling you "I've seen something that would fit better here!" Filler is not okay. :)

I hope this helps someone. :)

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Post by trythil » Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:38 am

I think I consistently break all three of those rules.

Oh well.

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Post by ryouga42 » Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:44 am

trythil wrote:I think I consistently break all three of those rules.

Oh well.
I say "rules", but they're really more like "strong guidelines"... "rules" just sounds better. ;)

I'm not saying "ANY AMV THAT DOES NOT FOLLOW THESE GOD GIVEN RULES SUCKS", either. It's just a pattern that was made eminently obvious as I was watching many videos.

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Post by Otohiko » Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:22 am

For the viewer's sake - yes, all three rules are gold.

Myself, in editing I happen to go against #3 consistently. Because I'm selfish. :?
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Post by kmv » Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:10 am

trythil wrote:I think I consistently break all three of those rules.

Oh well.
Dude, you and jbone have got to get out this self flagellation society you seem to be a part of. You both have a tendency to go on about how much you suck - and you don't.

ryouga42 wrote:In this case, evoking the feeling that the music was made to fit the anime is the goal here.
While I have a tendency to agree with your points I think you have missed out some detail that would be interesting.

For example: I have noticed that music that contains certain elements (elements that actively engage the listener - driving chords, certain hooks, etc.) are required for mass appeal.

There are many types of these 'elements' and it seems to me that one of the things that sets the "pro's" here apart from the rest is that they actively choose and manipulate these elements as part of the creation process - as opposed to it being an intuitive process. Call it the "craft" of making an AMV.

I would be interested in hearing what rules creators (especially the pro's) have adopted for themselves as part of their craft.

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Post by ryouga42 » Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:23 am

Sure, I left some stuff out. The idea was to be concise and have a very small "core" of points that need to be made. You can have one of everything and still not be good, and you can skip one and be good, it's just that 99% of "good" AMVs tend to pull one from every one of those rules.

You can't expect any one guide to say every single thing that makes an AMV good. It'd be huge. :)

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Post by Kalium » Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:29 am

And it would probably contradict itself point-for-point on a lot of things, too.

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Re: The Three Rules Of Three

Post by downwithpants » Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:22 pm

Well it's good that you deduced all these features of good music videos. There are some really important features all editors should know about.

just wanted to note
ryouga42 wrote:Beatsync. Beatsync is not necessarily synchronizing scene changes to beats. There are other things covered by this, including synchronizing scene changes to music, or synchronizing what is going on in a scene to the music. This does not cover lipsync. We'll get to that later.
What I call beat synch is matching elements of action to specific notes and sounds in the music (like a gunshot in the video or a cut transition matched to a percussion/bass instrument beat, or a fade transition on a drum roll).

Another form of synch that I think you're trying to get at is mood synch. Mood being the emotion that the music is trying to portray. Beat synch is more of getting the frame of impact in the video to fall on the same fraction of a second as the entrance of the note you're trying to synch it too. Mood synch is choosing a sequence of video scenes that correlate with the mood of the music. You can have a sequence that is synched to the beat, but not to the mood or vice versa. For example, AbsoluteDestiny's "Storytelling" has little beat synch, but it is completely mood synched.

Another difference between mood synch and beat synch is that mood synch usually occurs over a verse or at least several measures. For example, if the music goes from soft and peaceful to loud and violent, you wouldn't want to put heavy action scenes in both sections, but rather delay the entrance of the action scenes until the loud and violent part (or play the action scenes in the soft and peaceful section and switch to a different type of scene in the loud and violent section for a different effect).

Good videos often have both beat synch and mood synch though, although I find mood synch more important in making the video 'fit' with the music.
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Post by godix » Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:46 pm

That's odd, I always thought the rule of three was that a ghost would appear if you stood in front of a mirror and said 'Bloody Mary' three times. Hmm, thinking about it that could work for a short AMV....
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Post by SarahtheBoring » Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:24 pm

godix wrote:That's odd, I always thought the rule of three was that a ghost would appear if you stood in front of a mirror and said 'Bloody Mary' three times. Hmm, thinking about it that could work for a short AMV....
I thought it was "if one person dies, two more are going to follow" (which is silly, 'course, as you can arbitrarily group up any three in the steady trickle of folks leaving the planet) or, as I saw recently, "if you're not sure how many times something should happen in a story, make it three." :P

I think this essay is generally level-headed about things. Of course, as you've noted, everything depends on the particular case.

Though I'd echo something someone said a while back - I think it was mexicanjunior, though I'm not sure - that it's very, VERY hard to make lipsync not look ridiculous in a serious video. There are exceptions, as with anything, but I am solidly against the idea that "all good AMVs have lipsync" (I've actually seen someone write that... it was scary).

But I'm all for opinionating on what makes vids tick, so good job even if I don't agree with all points. :)

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