Re-Viewable

billy_wires · Post by **billy_wires** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:07 pm

I personally don't let this section affect the overall score. Why? Because just because I don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't well put together. I look at the technical aspects as well as effort, such as were digital effects used, did the song fit, did it look good, did they achieve the desired effect, ect. I think that I can say with some certanty that if someone makes a video, someone will like it. So, that is why I don't grade down on overall when I don't like it, only if it is poorly put together. Thoughts?

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:19 pm

According to the 'guide to writing reviews' the 'Overall' score is supposed to be an average of the other scores. But I don't grade it like that, either.

I look at the description Phade put next to the title - the highest score saying "couldn't be better" and the lowest score saying "should never have been made."

To me, that means the vids that get a 10 in overall are the ones that cannot be improved. So I rate that category based on how much improvement the video could use. If it's almost to the point where it 'couldn't be better' then it will get an 8 or 9 - if it has a lot of things to be improved, the score lowers accordingly. As long as that's the description Phade gives for that section, that's the way I'm going to score it - it's one point where I purposely disregard the 'guide' to making reviews.

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:50 pm

I grade this by how often I feel the urge to rewatch said video. Hence, reviewability.

billy_wires · Post by **billy_wires** » Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:14 am

J-0080 wrote:I grade this by how often I feel the urge to rewatch said video. Hence, reviewability.

Really? Is that what it's for?

Now here's a trick question: Do you let it affect the overall score?

P.S. No hard feelings, Mr. Bond

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:21 pm

J-0080 wrote:I grade this by how often I feel the urge to rewatch said video. Hence, reviewability.

Ditto, but at the same time, I weigh my scores differently. In all honesty, I rarely watch AMVs lately and thus, if I watch your AMV even one more time then the initial time (which means I kept it), that's pretty high reviewability to me.

I don't imagine Phade would be angered by this even though he has those specific guidelines per score (like once a week, once a month, etc.) since all we're doing is basing it on our own viewing habits. I don't think anyone watches AMVs like *every* hour and could really put the '10' score honestly. I imagine most folks do the same as me and take into account their own viewing habits and weight accordingly.

If I shouldn't be doing that, uhm...a lot of you are going to get a lot lower reviewability scores even though I love your videos

Eek-1 · Post by **Eek-1** » Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:05 pm

Overall is overall impression after watching the video the first few times. Re-viewable is sometime after that.

Kaji01 · Post by **Kaji01** » Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:17 pm

dwchang wrote:I don't imagine Phade would be angered by this even though he has those specific guidelines per score (like once a week, once a month, etc.) since all we're doing is basing it on our own viewing habits. I don't think anyone watches AMVs like *every* hour and could really put the '10' score honestly. I imagine most folks do the same as me and take into account their own viewing habits and weight accordingly.

If I shouldn't be doing that, uhm...a lot of you are going to get a lot lower reviewability scores even though I love your videos :uhoh:

I figure them to be more of a guide for people who have no idea how to rate it at all really, and he just kind of threw things in to stretch the scale out. I base it on how much I watch it in the first hour, myself. Many times if I like it the first time through, I will play it 2-3 times thereafter. (and yes, there was one I actually deleted (which I almost never do due to the time it takes me to download vids) after a partial viewing due to an annoying flashing watermark across the whole screen for the whole video...)

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:55 pm

wow, this thread really shows how widely interpreted 'overall score' is--
billy takes in various aspects - technical, effort, effects, appeal
ari sees it as how much it could be improved
ek1 sees it as reviewablity for the first few times
kaji01 sees it as reviewablity in the first hour (similar to ek1's)

as for me, i see it as how well it succeeded in doing what it looked like it was trying to do. (like the mental 'impact' of the video)

reviewability is not a factor in overall score, but videos that receive high overall scores tend to receive higher reviewability scores.

Leanan · Post by **Leanan** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:21 am

I've given high overall scores, but low reviewability simply because there are a lot of video genres I just don't care for. Sure it's a great video, but I just feel very eh about putting it on rotation. Then again I've been known to watch videos I gave a lower overall to more often. I still hate that Reviewability actually affects the total score as much as it does.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:14 am

downwithpants wrote:wow, this thread really shows how widely interpreted 'overall score' is--
billy takes in various aspects - technical, effort, effects, appeal
ari sees it as how much it could be improved
ek1 sees it as reviewablity for the first few times
kaji01 sees it as reviewablity in the first hour (similar to ek1's)

as for me, i see it as how well it succeeded in doing what it looked like it was trying to do. (like the mental 'impact' of the video)

reviewability is not a factor in overall score, but videos that receive high overall scores tend to receive higher reviewability scores.

Well I was talking about JUST the reviewability Score. I take overall somewhat like how Arigatomyna does it. Overall, how effectively did they do the video? One thing I do take into account is the concept or goal set forth at the start (or by reading the video profile). Even if I hate a video or the music, I can still give it a high overall score if they succeeded at what they set out to do.

If you read the overall score description, it's something similar. Basically was an action video action packed? Was a comedy video funny? Did the drama video move you or incite any emotions? Was the romance video sappy? and so on. Again, I may not like the video, but just like a teacher reading a paper they disagree with, we can still "grade" them on how well they did what they set out to do, which in turn is related to how Ari looks at is as "could it be improved upon?"