practice amv's ?

OtakuMegane · Post by **OtakuMegane** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:54 am

My first video was the first I ever tried. A DBZ one, made before I even knew about ANV.org. My standards were various videos my friend downloaded from Kazaa. I think it turned out well, for a first video, but sucks compared to what I can do now. Working on a second video, which is to be a "full video", but personally I'm doing it as more practice. A Mortal Kombat one(yeah, yeah), to practice some lip synch and quick cuts to faster music. Will probably try one more after this one before taking on my "insane" video project.

bum · Post by **bum** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:56 am

mexicanjunior wrote:
ops for anyone else? It's hard to feel sympathy for you when you haven't even bothered to give 1 opinion.

note im on a shithole dial-up conection that charges $25 for 120 hours of usage a month. so try to consider smoenes situation before you bite them. hopefully i might move to a different isp soon that gives me unlimited everything for $50/3 months.

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 5:18 am

bum wrote:
mexicanjunior wrote:
ops for anyone else? It's hard to feel sympathy for you when you haven't even bothered to give 1 opinion.
note im on a shithole dial-up conection that charges $25 for 120 hours of usage a month. so try to consider smoenes situation before you bite them. hopefully i might move to a different isp soon that gives me unlimited everything for $50/3 months.

Are you telling me you have no vids downloaded from or catalogued on the org? That would be your only excuse for never once giving anyone an opinion. Even still, if you found the time and bandwidth to upload your video for others to see, I have a hard time believing you couldn't find the time to download someone else's and give that person an op. Your dial up connection issues sound like a YP, not an MP, so people are not obligated to give you anything (reviews included) just because you got a raw ISP deal.

bum · Post by **bum** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:34 am

i managed to upload one of my (2 curently released) by geting a freind to do it while i was at his place. the other amv was only 6megs . yes, i know i could get him to dl me some amv's , but it bugs the hell out of him when i go on a downloading spree at his place. il try to give some reviews in the furur, just relax and stop acting like you wana put a shotgun to my head and say "DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKING DESERVE TO GET AN OP BITCH, DO YA ?"

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:09 am

SarahtheBoring wrote:
Otohiko wrote:Frankly, I never thought that scores make you a good editor, either. Besides, if what you do is mess around - well, how about the fact that those vids DO deserve moderate-to-crappy scores?

Scores are nothing, fulfilling whatever you tried to get at is what matters. If the intent was to mess around with a vid and show it to a bunch of people, no better way of doing that than uploading to the org.
These paragraphs contradict each other.

"Those vids deserve crappy scores :eyeroll:"
vs.
"Scores are nothing"

...can you elaborate?

Sorry for the delay; but I for one didn't think these really contradicted.

The first is obvious; opinions are there for people to make a judgement on a video's quality. So, if someone releases a kinda-crappy vid, I'm sure the kinda-crappy scores it gets is what it deserves; as long as they're a reflection of one's judgement of a video's quality, there is no problem.

The second part you took out of context, and yes, out of context it's contradictory. What I said was not "Scores are nothing", but "Scores are nothing, fulfilling whatever you tried to get at is what matters. "

There is a big difference. I think people have to realize that not everyone's aim in making a video is to get great scores or make a super-great new video which everyone will adore.

For instance, with my two last videos, both of them had two areas of aim for me: the first was to experiment with and grasp certain materials and techniques (such as using multiple anime sources or trying out absurd lyric-sync), the second - to try and make videos out of combinations, especially to songs, which are inherently unlikely to ever be AMV'd by anyone else, in any other circumstances except free experimentation that is not tied to scores or popularity. Scores were not considered, and still aren't.

I'll concede to crappy scores if people feel my vids deserve them, and I'll be glad if anyone sees through my own intent and goes along with the joke.

It's not my aim as an artist to get good scores; it's not my aim to judge my own videos or claim that they should be given some sort of great credit. It's my aim to make available what I have, and let others look at it. If they give it bad scores, it's none of my business. Because my aim has been completed before a single person downloaded it.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 1:42 pm

Scintilla wrote:Does anyone else feel that way too?

I mean, I find making AMVs to be quite a fun experience... but once they're actually <i>made,</i> there's not much else you can do besides spread them around and see what people think of them.

Oh, don't get me wrong - I thought that for months - the local was unchangeable so there was no point thinking of ways to improve videos already loaded. I just took the comments and put them toward future vids. And I do like to surf the top 10 list looking for my videos - especially before they started the 8 requirement. Now I get a kick out of doing a 'Romance' filter and seeing some 6 or 7 of my vids listed there - it's as fun as reading the reviews and knowing I did something the viewers liked. I get a rush knowing my target audience likes the same things I do. I would have to have absolutely no pride in my work to dislike getting good scores. To me, the scores mean someone liked it - and that's the entire point in my sharing them. Plus some of my vids are requests, and I like to see how those do compared to the ones I did just for myself. It's just an interesting thing to look at them.

But I'm not out for the rivalry with the other vids on the lists. The only competition I pay attention to is with my own vids - and it's difficult to glance over my profile and compare videos to each other (with the top list I can filter according to fan/creator, reviewability, originality - those are the sort of things I like to know when I look at who is enjoying my vids). I find it very interesting to see some of my older vids ranking higher than my new ones - and then trying to figure out what they liked better about those older vids (how I've changed since I made those, whether it's the story or the music, or simply the different people reviewing them). It's just fun to do a 'mock' study of the way people react to my fanwork. I do the same thing with fanfics - I have my favorites, but I like to see what the fans like best, and then try to figure out why we're different.

The only reason I tend to disregard the scoring system on principle is because I don't compare my videos to other people's work - even my romance vids (my best work) are in a different genre from the others listed. I may be able to watch and review any romance vid without getting upset, but I seem to be in the minority there. And aside from a few vids, I simply don't see myself as having a competitive arena to fight in. So the only reason scores are important (or even interesting) is when I'm comparing my own work - I like to see improvement in my vids, so I enjoy watching the averages. And I must admit - the average scores 'received' makes it very easy to spot my weakest point. I take pride in the fact that 'effects' is where I'm lacking in the eyes of my viewers - I get a kick out of that. ;p

bum · Post by **bum** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:09 am

Scintilla wrote:Does anyone else feel that way too?

I mean, I find making AMVs to be quite a fun experience... but once they're actually <i>made,</i> there's not much else you can do besides spread them around and see what people think of them.

ya see, its the experience, the journy of making the amv that makes it worth it, thats the real reward. and people seeing it and geting opps, thats just the icing on the cake

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:47 pm

Otohiko wrote:Sorry for the delay; but I for one didn't think these really contradicted.

The first is obvious; opinions are there for people to make a judgement on a video's quality. So, if someone releases a kinda-crappy vid, I'm sure the kinda-crappy scores it gets is what it deserves; as long as they're a reflection of one's judgement of a video's quality, there is no problem.

The second part you took out of context, and yes, out of context it's contradictory. What I said was not "Scores are nothing", but "Scores are nothing, fulfilling whatever you tried to get at is what matters. "

There is a big difference. I think people have to realize that not everyone's aim in making a video is to get great scores or make a super-great new video which everyone will adore.

I understand that, but I don't get the first part then. The "HAHA STUPID BITCH YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET, BURN IN HELL!!!"

... unless of course you don't consider bad scores to be a punishment, in which case it makes more sense. Maybe that's it. Eh, I bet it is. (Then I'm not all that clear on the wording "deserve," but that's nitpicking. Shut up, St. Okay.)

For instance, with my two last videos, both of them had two areas of aim for me: the first was to experiment with and grasp certain materials and techniques (such as using multiple anime sources or trying out absurd lyric-sync), the second - to try and make videos out of combinations, especially to songs, which are inherently unlikely to ever be AMV'd by anyone else, in any other circumstances except free experimentation that is not tied to scores or popularity. Scores were not considered, and still aren't.

I'll concede to crappy scores if people feel my vids deserve them, and I'll be glad if anyone sees through my own intent and goes along with the joke.

It's not my aim as an artist to get good scores; it's not my aim to judge my own videos or claim that they should be given some sort of great credit. It's my aim to make available what I have, and let others look at it. If they give it bad scores, it's none of my business. Because my aim has been completed before a single person downloaded it.

I understand that, I think. I just thought it was kind of harsh to say that people deserve to get beaten down. Just because you're a crappy editor doesn't mean you're a bad person.

But I guess... that's how it goes.