Evangelion Episode 23 Director's Cut proves the following...

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:47 pm

She is.

However, there is insufficient evidence to support the idea that Rei is a clone of Yui, and the chance of her having anything of Lillith in her is virtually nil since she was probably born before Lillith was discovered.

IF Rei is related to Yui, then she was 4 when Yui died. Only 14-year-olds can pilot Evas, Rei pilots an Eva, therefore she is 14 years old. However, she CANNOT be a pure clone, since her hair and eye colors are different (and there are facial differences; eyes are slightly differently shaped etc.)

No one has any idea whose soul is in Unit 00. Some suspect Naoko Akagi, some say Lillith, some suspect it's an imitation or imprint of Rei's own soul. With no evidence anywhere, no one can say.

Cyanna · Post by **Cyanna** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:46 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:She is.

However, there is insufficient evidence to support the idea that Rei is a clone of Yui, and the chance of her having anything of Lillith in her is virtually nil since she was probably born before Lillith was discovered.

IF Rei is related to Yui, then she was 4 when Yui died. Only 14-year-olds can pilot Evas, Rei pilots an Eva, therefore she is 14 years old. However, she CANNOT be a pure clone, since her hair and eye colors are different (and there are facial differences; eyes are slightly differently shaped etc.)

No one has any idea whose soul is in Unit 00. Some suspect Naoko Akagi, some say Lillith, some suspect it's an imitation or imprint of Rei's own soul. With no evidence anywhere, no one can say.

Naoko Akagi sees Yui in Rei and becomes jealous of her since it if obvious that she does not have Gendo's love. Shinji is reminded of a mother at some point in the series when he watches Rei.

It is possible that there could have been some genetic manipulation that resulted in the albinism. If Gendo suddenly showed up to work with a little Yui, it would cause quite a disturbance. But a child who resembled Yui (just enough to drive Akagi nuts) would probably not cause as much trouble.

And I personally think that Naoko's soul is in Unit-00. Unit-00 has tried to kill both Rei and Gendo when it went berserk and apparently Naoko scribbled something inside Caspar about Gendo that wasn't very nice and we know that she is jealous of Rei.

We do not know when Rei was "born" as all of her records are erased. We DO know that Kawori was "born" on the day of Second Impact, when Adam was captured (and quite possibly had his soul tranferred to Kaworu). If she is the same age as Shinji, then it is likely that she was created before Yui even died since it was neccessary for her and her clones to grow and develop naturally.

AND if she IS the vessel for Lilith's soul, she must have been "born" on the day of Lilith's capture, which is unknown. Lilith was essential to the Eva's since the LCL is actually it's blood. Adam was essential to the Eva's because the Evas were created from Adam. The two had to be found and captured for the plan to go on. Capturing Adam caused Second Impact. Capturing Lilith was much quieter. When we first see Lilith in the series, we are tricked into thinking it is actually Adam. It isn't until Episode 24 when Kaworu points out that he is floating before a completely different angel then the one he is looking for.

Cyanna · Post by **Cyanna** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:04 pm

Of course a lot of my conclusions right now are just speculation that makes the most sense to me.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:24 pm

It wasn't that Adam was captured that caused Second Impact, but rather that they tried to harness his power by using the Lance of Longinus (as we discover at the beginning of Death and Rebirth, IIRC). However, I don't remember whether his shrinkage to embryonic form had occurred before, at the hands of the scientists, or whether it was a result of the huge energy displacement that was Second Impact.

Cyanna · Post by **Cyanna** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:32 pm

Yeah. Good point.

I always just assumed that Second Impact happened while they were trying to shrink it to an embryo.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:44 pm

Actually, they were using the Lance to put human DNA into Adam. Adam sucked it down quite vigorously and that's what caused 2I. The cause of his return to an embryonic state is unknown.

For the record, there is NO form of Albinism that causes blue hair. And contrary to popular myth, most albinos have blue or gray eyes, not pink. All forms of albinism cause blurry vision to some degree because the eyes need melanin to develop correctly. Rei seems to be able to read without glasses, hence the books on the dresser in her room. Rei isn't an albino (though she should be played by one in LAME).

TheMadOne · Post by **TheMadOne** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:33 am

For sure she is an albino, but they made her hair blue-grey instead of white. Maybe to gibe her more "color"....

Nah. Look at her red eyes and her white skin. She is an albino due bad cloning. She eats no meat (maybe she can´t handle it) and she gets hurt very easyly. Maybe she´d get many more sicknesses if she would get older.

Or did anyone forgot what happend to Dolly, the first cloned being ever?

)v(ajin Koji · Post by **)v(ajin Koji** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:27 am

Dolly is dead.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:45 am

I remember reading somewhere that Rei was given red eyes mainly because she lacked enough other distinctive features, not for any deeper, more meaningful reason...

)v(ajin Koji · Post by **)v(ajin Koji** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:49 am

but in Eva...who knows the difference between pointless and deep.