Evangelion's ending. (SPOILERS)

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Evangelion's ending. (SPOILERS)

Post by Darksyde » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:36 pm

Ok, I just finished watching Evangelion. I have never thought that the ending would be that way, and I didn't understand what was meant by it. Maybe it's not what I'm thinking it is, maybe it's more simple than that. I'm really confused of what they meant by that ending.

The main parts in the anime, like the EVAs, Angels, SEELE, and what is supposed to be Adam. What do those parts represent? What was their role in the story?

Those are main points in the anime, but I want to mention another points and things that happened which raise some questions like what, how and why?:

1) The first battle that Shinji fought using the EVA. When the EVA got attacked by the Angel and got deactivated, and then blood spew from the EVA's head, and then it reactivates again by itself, and finishing the fight by killing the Angel.

2) When Shinji dissolves and combines with the fluid that's in the entry plug for the EVA.

3) The episode where Toji's EVA (Shinji's class mate), goes out of control, then they designate EVA 03 as the 13th Angel and sortie Shinji (EVA 01) to destroy it. Shinji not wanting to fight EVA 03 because he said there is a person in it and does not wish to kill him. Then Shinji's father, cuts the connections between Shinji and his EVA, and let's the dummy plug do the job, it destroys EVA 03 and rips it apart piece by piece. The point here is, when EVA 01 takes the entry plug of the other EVA in it's hand, Shinji's father did not stop it, even though knowing that EVA 03 can't do anyone any harm, he left EVA 01 to destroy the entry plug which had Toji in it.

4) The episode where Shinji's EVA again got attacked by another Angel, EVA's left arm gets cut off in the process and deactivating, then the Angel targeted something that's in the EVA (probably the part which the EVA is made from, Adam). EVA, again activating by itself, attacked the Angel and used some parts of the Angel to regenerate it's arm, which after that looked like a human arm. After EVA killed the Angel, it started devouring the Angel, just like it's some kind of an animal feeding on it's prey. Then Kaji says something like, EVA 01 has been awakened.

5) What was the point, when SEELE, deployed the last Angel, Nagisa Kaoru, as the 5th child? They wanted to lead human kind into the future, using both, Nagisa Kaoru and EVA 01. I don't understand what they meant?

Lots of weird parts really, which in my opinion have nothing to do with the ending, which itself is also a weird ending, yes, I'm saying weird because I havn't understood it yet. So, I want to know from the people who have watched it, what do you think has happened, or what they meant by it?

After I read others opinions, and after I get my thoughts together of what I think the ending meant, I'll post them soon.

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Post by Jonathan02us » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:59 pm

Well, it will only a short while till this thread gets flamed and stuff ... but i aint really gonna do that. I started an eva thread and i got some good feed backs, so instead of me posting again about wat i think, ill just give u the link to the thread and u can check it out urself ... good luck .. ;)

http://www.ryugenzawa.com/phpBB/viewtop ... ba550e9652

Brace urself for the up coming flames and spams ...

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Post by Darksyde » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:06 pm

Thanks Jonathan02us, I thought that this subject has been discussed. Anyways, thanks for the link, I think that'll do.

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Post by Darksyde » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:08 pm

Oh yeah, I'm sorry about this topic being posted again, it's just the ending was unsatisfying, and I just wanted to know what it meant.

Sorry again.

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Post by Jonathan02us » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:14 pm

Dont sweat it i got nailed when i posted my thread up, but it actually turned out ok, but people arent gonna like to see one for another couple of months.

Im surprised that there hasnt been any spam or flames on this thread yet, i think that this might b a world record ... :lol:

Well good luck in finding out ur answers for the ending for the movie. If u want, im always up for a good long discussion about Eva. But just pm me and dont post another thread. Well ill be seeing u ... :)

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Post by Darksyde » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:28 pm

I'll read what there is in that link, and if there's anything else I want, I'll let you know. Thanks again.

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Re: Evangelion's ending. (SPOILERS)

Post by UncleMilo » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:40 pm

Hi!

If you want to talk about EVA, just e-mail me at unclemilo@yahoo.com.
I am pretty well versed at Evangelion informaiton and would be happy to offer you my views on the series.



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1) It's important to understand that EVA 01 contains the actual material of Shinji's mother within it. The best way to explain the actions of UNIT 01 is to think of the most basic, animal desires of Shinji's mother... to protect her young. When Shinji is knocked out, his mind is no longer controlling the EVA... but given the nature of UNIT 01, it is able to opeate without the controller (or the plug as we see in the show) and it acts on its own initiative... protecting Shinji... destroying that which would hurt Shinji. Thus, EVA 01 reactivates and berserks against the enemy. Some of NERV knew this would happen... some did not.

2) What's your question? Shinji is turned into the very basic materials that is his being. He is reduced to the same as the LCL fluid. This is also what had happened to Shinji's mother... but in the case of Shinji's mother, she is absorbed into EVA UNIT 01.

3) Gendo has no problem letting ANYONE die so long as the Angels are defeated.

4) The EVAs are copies made from Lillith. How do we know this? First, the Angels are NOT numbered in the order found. They found Lillith first... but they knew where Adam was to be located. However, Adam blew up... so EVAs could not have been copied from the material of Adam. Furthermore, if you go to the source material for this series, the EVAs are designed based on the descriptions of the Children of Lillith... and therefore, that is a further indicator that the EVAs are made from Lillith in the series as well. Unit 01 is more than a machine... it is a biological entity that is under the CONTROL of NERV (remember... the Armor isn't Armor... it's there to control the EVAs...) and UNIT 01 is more than any of the other EVAs because it has Yui's "soul" within it.

5) Gendo's plan was to betray SEELE and be the one to guide the future of the human race... SEELE suspected him of this as the show progressed and they sent Kaworu to destroy all of NERV, except that Kaworu chose to let Shinji destroy him. I hate to bring up the movie when talking about the TV show, but because NERV wasn't destroyed in this manner, the next step SEELE took was the physical assault on NERV, which makes up a goodly portion fo the movie. However, this is not that important a plot point as the need for a surface story is kind of done once the last Angel is destroyed... which is why the show goes to the main story arc after that point.


Anyway... you can e-mail me and we can talk

Hell... anyone can e-mail me if they want to talk EVA

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Post by Darksyde » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:48 pm

Ok UncleMilo, if there's anything I want to ask you about, I'll e-mail you. Thanks.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:54 pm

Ya know, I havn't read in any text does it say Adam had children with Lilith, only after he asked god to take Lilith away and replace her with Eve did they have children.

So should we be like... the... er... Evaiam? ^^;
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Post by UncleMilo » Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:08 pm

DJ_Izumi wrote:Ya know, I havn't read in any text does it say Adam had children with Lilith, only after he asked god to take Lilith away and replace her with Eve did they have children.

So should we be like... the... er... Evaiam? ^^;

Actually... Lillith marries Cain... you know, from Cain and Abel... and all her children are demons.

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