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Post by HeartbreakerByZep » Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:52 pm

TheDarknessFlame wrote:http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/Evang ... ex.asp?p=3

Thats a pretty interesting take on Evangelion. I have only seen the first episode of Evangelion which I thought was good although I only remember it vaguely. However I ordered the box set of Eva from AnimeNetwork (See location) about 4 weeks ago and have yet to recieve it. (If the backorder is this severe why keep advertising the product, its just a tease) I wanted to see what some people gathered from wactching Eva, this way when I eventually get it I might understand it more and i'll know what to look for.
I could spend hours plotting, detailing, explaining the many many reasons why Evangelion is the greatest thing ever made, to me. I don't know how you will like it, it provides everything I want in a series, but try not to *expect* it to be the greatest thing ever, just let it be what it is. I think how you approach and experience a series is important.

As for that ADV description, it's CRAP. One of the worst Evangelion interpretations I've ever read. There are many things fundamentally wrong with it.
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Post by Jonathan02us » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:45 pm

HeartbreakerByZep wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/Evang ... ex.asp?p=3

Thats a pretty interesting take on Evangelion. I have only seen the first episode of Evangelion which I thought was good although I only remember it vaguely. However I ordered the box set of Eva from AnimeNetwork (See location) about 4 weeks ago and have yet to recieve it. (If the backorder is this severe why keep advertising the product, its just a tease) I wanted to see what some people gathered from wactching Eva, this way when I eventually get it I might understand it more and i'll know what to look for.
I could spend hours plotting, detailing, explaining the many many reasons why Evangelion is the greatest thing ever made, to me. I don't know how you will like it, it provides everything I want in a series, but try not to *expect* it to be the greatest thing ever, just let it be what it is. I think how you approach and experience a series is important.

As for that ADV description, it's CRAP. One of the worst Evangelion interpretations I've ever read. There are many things fundamentally wrong with it.
I would definitely agree that Neon Genesis Evagelion is one of the greatest Anime ever that i have seen ... it would definitely be in my top 3 if not number 1 ... i like the fact that it makes me think about things that i wouldnt normally think about in other animes .. oh those implicit things that are intertwined into eva ... :)
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Post by TheDarknessFlame » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:50 pm

Jonathan02us wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/Evang ... ex.asp?p=3

Thats a pretty interesting take on Evangelion. I have only seen the first episode of Evangelion which I thought was good although I only remember it vaguely. However I ordered the box set of Eva from AnimeNetwork (See location) about 4 weeks ago and have yet to recieve it. (If the backorder is this severe why keep advertising the product, its just a tease) I wanted to see what some people gathered from wactching Eva, this way when I eventually get it I might understand it more and i'll know what to look for.
I could spend hours plotting, detailing, explaining the many many reasons why Evangelion is the greatest thing ever made, to me. I don't know how you will like it, it provides everything I want in a series, but try not to *expect* it to be the greatest thing ever, just let it be what it is. I think how you approach and experience a series is important.

As for that ADV description, it's CRAP. One of the worst Evangelion interpretations I've ever read. There are many things fundamentally wrong with it.
I would definitely agree that Neon Genesis Evagelion is one of the greatest Anime ever that i have seen ... it would definitely be in my top 3 if not number 1 ... i like the fact that it makes me think about things that i wouldnt normally think about in other animes .. oh those implicit things that are intertwined into eva ... :)
But what about number 2?






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Post by Jonathan02us » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:58 pm

TheDarknessFlame wrote:
Jonathan02us wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/Evang ... ex.asp?p=3

Thats a pretty interesting take on Evangelion. I have only seen the first episode of Evangelion which I thought was good although I only remember it vaguely. However I ordered the box set of Eva from AnimeNetwork (See location) about 4 weeks ago and have yet to recieve it. (If the backorder is this severe why keep advertising the product, its just a tease) I wanted to see what some people gathered from wactching Eva, this way when I eventually get it I might understand it more and i'll know what to look for.
I could spend hours plotting, detailing, explaining the many many reasons why Evangelion is the greatest thing ever made, to me. I don't know how you will like it, it provides everything I want in a series, but try not to *expect* it to be the greatest thing ever, just let it be what it is. I think how you approach and experience a series is important.

As for that ADV description, it's CRAP. One of the worst Evangelion interpretations I've ever read. There are many things fundamentally wrong with it.
I would definitely agree that Neon Genesis Evagelion is one of the greatest Anime ever that i have seen ... it would definitely be in my top 3 if not number 1 ... i like the fact that it makes me think about things that i wouldnt normally think about in other animes .. oh those implicit things that are intertwined into eva ... :)
But what about number 2?






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OK here is my list:

1. Love Hina/Neon Genesis Evangelion/Ah! my goddess
2. Cowboy Bebop

I still cant make up my mind ... I will eventually though ... 8) .. now that i look at it ... oh well forget it ... :?
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Post by TheDarknessFlame » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:04 pm

Jonathan02us wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:
Jonathan02us wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/Evang ... ex.asp?p=3

Thats a pretty interesting take on Evangelion. I have only seen the first episode of Evangelion which I thought was good although I only remember it vaguely. However I ordered the box set of Eva from AnimeNetwork (See location) about 4 weeks ago and have yet to recieve it. (If the backorder is this severe why keep advertising the product, its just a tease) I wanted to see what some people gathered from wactching Eva, this way when I eventually get it I might understand it more and i'll know what to look for.
I could spend hours plotting, detailing, explaining the many many reasons why Evangelion is the greatest thing ever made, to me. I don't know how you will like it, it provides everything I want in a series, but try not to *expect* it to be the greatest thing ever, just let it be what it is. I think how you approach and experience a series is important.

As for that ADV description, it's CRAP. One of the worst Evangelion interpretations I've ever read. There are many things fundamentally wrong with it.
I would definitely agree that Neon Genesis Evagelion is one of the greatest Anime ever that i have seen ... it would definitely be in my top 3 if not number 1 ... i like the fact that it makes me think about things that i wouldnt normally think about in other animes .. oh those implicit things that are intertwined into eva ... :)
But what about number 2?






:? /End Spam
OK here is my list:

1. Love Hina/Neon Genesis Evangelion/Ah! my goddess
2. Cowboy Bebop

I still cant make up my mind ... I will eventually though ... 8) .. now that i look at it ... oh well forget it ... :?
There can only be one...


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Post by Jonathan02us » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:11 pm

TheDarknessFlame wrote:
Jonathan02us wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:
Jonathan02us wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/Evang ... ex.asp?p=3

Thats a pretty interesting take on Evangelion. I have only seen the first episode of Evangelion which I thought was good although I only remember it vaguely. However I ordered the box set of Eva from AnimeNetwork (See location) about 4 weeks ago and have yet to recieve it. (If the backorder is this severe why keep advertising the product, its just a tease) I wanted to see what some people gathered from wactching Eva, this way when I eventually get it I might understand it more and i'll know what to look for.
I could spend hours plotting, detailing, explaining the many many reasons why Evangelion is the greatest thing ever made, to me. I don't know how you will like it, it provides everything I want in a series, but try not to *expect* it to be the greatest thing ever, just let it be what it is. I think how you approach and experience a series is important.

As for that ADV description, it's CRAP. One of the worst Evangelion interpretations I've ever read. There are many things fundamentally wrong with it.
I would definitely agree that Neon Genesis Evagelion is one of the greatest Anime ever that i have seen ... it would definitely be in my top 3 if not number 1 ... i like the fact that it makes me think about things that i wouldnt normally think about in other animes .. oh those implicit things that are intertwined into eva ... :)
But what about number 2?






:? /End Spam
OK here is my list:

1. Love Hina/Neon Genesis Evangelion/Ah! my goddess
2. Cowboy Bebop

I still cant make up my mind ... I will eventually though ... 8) .. now that i look at it ... oh well forget it ... :?
There can only be one...


:? /End random highlander quotes
Yeah yeah i kno but i still cant make up my mind ... i put love hina as number 1 for the love story ... and number 1 Eva for the action ... but love hina and Ah! my goddess are tied ... ahh i cant make up my mind ... :?
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Post by TheDarknessFlame » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:25 pm

Jonathan02us wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:
Jonathan02us wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:
Jonathan02us wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:
TheDarknessFlame wrote:http://www.advfilms.com/favorites/Evang ... ex.asp?p=3

Thats a pretty interesting take on Evangelion. I have only seen the first episode of Evangelion which I thought was good although I only remember it vaguely. However I ordered the box set of Eva from AnimeNetwork (See location) about 4 weeks ago and have yet to recieve it. (If the backorder is this severe why keep advertising the product, its just a tease) I wanted to see what some people gathered from wactching Eva, this way when I eventually get it I might understand it more and i'll know what to look for.
I could spend hours plotting, detailing, explaining the many many reasons why Evangelion is the greatest thing ever made, to me. I don't know how you will like it, it provides everything I want in a series, but try not to *expect* it to be the greatest thing ever, just let it be what it is. I think how you approach and experience a series is important.

As for that ADV description, it's CRAP. One of the worst Evangelion interpretations I've ever read. There are many things fundamentally wrong with it.
I would definitely agree that Neon Genesis Evagelion is one of the greatest Anime ever that i have seen ... it would definitely be in my top 3 if not number 1 ... i like the fact that it makes me think about things that i wouldnt normally think about in other animes .. oh those implicit things that are intertwined into eva ... :)
But what about number 2?






:? /End Spam
OK here is my list:

1. Love Hina/Neon Genesis Evangelion/Ah! my goddess
2. Cowboy Bebop

I still cant make up my mind ... I will eventually though ... 8) .. now that i look at it ... oh well forget it ... :?
There can only be one...


:? /End random highlander quotes
Yeah yeah i kno but i still cant make up my mind ... i put love hina as number 1 for the love story ... and number 1 Eva for the action ... but love hina and Ah! my goddess are tied ... ahh i cant make up my mind ... :?
Oh i've never heard anything about the action, only confusing religous stuff. Oh and just thought i'd mention, I found a review for eva in which it was given a 1. lol I think this is pretty funny because it is soley because the person reviewing it got so frustrated that he couldn't understand it.
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Post by ErMaC » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:26 pm

Stop with the over-quoting of posts please.

I guess I kinda missed this thread since I don't like visiting this forum, but I'll just say I've done much research on Eva, its religious backgrounds, and the psychological theory it draws from (Freud and Jung), and I understand everything that goes on in Eva. I sat down at a table at like midnight with Nic Neidenbach and explained the entire thing to him. The vast majority is pretty obvious if you do some digging, and there are only a few things that are open to interpretation.

On that note, I would recommend, however, that people go back and look at the dozens of threads that have already discussed Evangelion, because everything that can be said has been said, in my opinion.

Oh except this one this I haven't shared with anybody yet, it's about the last line in EoE. The "Kimichiwarui" line which has been debated a whole lot. The Revival of Evangelion boxset discs come with scripts for every episode and the movies, and so I went through the script to take a look at the last line out of curiosity. The direction for the line is as follows:
kore ijyou naku, tsumetai koe de:
kimochiwarui
Which basically means "as above, in a cold-hearted voice:" and then kimochiwarui. The debate has been what the meaning of that line actually is. Does Asuka feel sick? Thus the "I feel sick" translation. Is she saying Shinji is sick? Thus the "Disgusting" or "Despicable" translation. The direction for reading the line makes it pretty clear, in my opinion, that it is the latter. (Tsumetai literally means "cool" or "cold" however in the context of voice, it means "cold-hearted" since that is also a literal translation of tsumetai).

Anyways, if anyone wants to discuss that feel free, but I don't think there's anything else new to talk about so I petition that this thread be locked unless people really really feel like repeating themselves.

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Post by Declan_Vee » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:39 pm

I was under the impression that Asuka felt sick because Shinji just jerked-off then and there. There isn't all that much to suggest that this is what happens, but it's no less likely than any of the other suggestions.
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Post by HeartbreakerByZep » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:42 pm

I enjoy repeating myself. I get extremely annoyed when threads get locked. I don't think you can ever discuss Evangelion enough, even if you're just saying the same thing again and again, anything could happen.

Declan Lee - you're theory is interesting, and it's no less possible than any of the other theories, but I wound't say it's no less likely than the others, because people often have pounds of evidence and logic to back up their insight about it.
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