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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:11 am

I'm still waiting for their proof that EVA converts people away from Christianity...I'm Roman Catholic, born, raised, and confirmed...I watched EVA
Did it give some new ideas: Yes
Did it make me want to convert: "No, I don't think so..." (/DeForest Kelly)

I've yet to see a single person turn away from Christianity because of Evangelion

Turning away from Christianity because of hyper-conservative 'Christians' however...
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Post by Cyanna » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:30 am

Christians are not best known for their open-mindedness.
Neither are those who think that all Christians are like that. :wink:

(No that wasn't directed at you or anyone really. I couldn't resist jumping on it to make a general statement about prejudice. I hope you are not offended by that.)
Alex_Dragon wrote:I am Christian I liked Evangelion and most "Christians" give a bad name to Christianity.
Ditto....Catholic actually.
Heero_Yuy84 wrote: I'm still waiting for their proof that EVA converts people away from Christianity...I'm Roman Catholic, born, raised, and confirmed...I watched EVA
Did it give some new ideas: Yes
Did it make me want to convert: "No, I don't think so..." (/DeForest Kelly)

I've yet to see a single person turn away from Christianity because of Evangelion

Turning away from Christianity because of hyper-conservative 'Christians' however...
Well.....not really. I wouldn't stop believing in something just because other people who do give me a bad name. :wink: Christianity isn't the only religion to be put in a bad light because some people associated with it did hurtful things. You just have to realize that it's not what the religion is all about.
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Post by Savia » Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:49 am

Heero_Yuy84 wrote:I'm still waiting for their proof that EVA converts people away from Christianity...I'm Roman Catholic, born, raised, and confirmed...I watched EVA
Did it give some new ideas: Yes
Did it make me want to convert: "No, I don't think so..." (/DeForest Kelly)

I've yet to see a single person turn away from Christianity because of Evangelion

Turning away from Christianity because of hyper-conservative 'Christians' however...
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Not a member of a church as it's not something I agree with, but I don't see why Eva would turn you away from faith. If anything, having your views challenged strengthens your conviction in what is right, and allows you to understand others better.
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Post by Tab. » Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:25 pm

The funniest thing is that those who see Eva as anti-christian in some way clearly do not understand the traditions from which it derives it's symbology (both Christianity and Eva) :?
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Post by UncleMilo » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:05 pm

Well... I know some religious groups who have condemned quite a few things far less "threatening" then EVA.

There are some people who have condemned Disney for releasing Kiki's Delivery Service, because the main character is a witch... and it shows her as being a good person.

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Post by Oboe » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:20 pm

That's kinda like the whole "Harry Potter is EVIL" thing. And I love Kiki's Delivery Service. It's such a sweet movie. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy every time I watch it.
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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:21 pm

I'm still laughing on the inside at the fact not one of these groups seems to have caught Big O yet
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Post by Oboe » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:27 pm

Oooooooo, EVIL Big O. Heh heh. Man I love that show. ^_^ Do you know if they're offended by Lord of the Rings? I knew of people bothered by Harry Potter but not by LOTR, which I found confusing.
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Post by Cyanna » Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:55 pm

Oboe wrote:o, EVIL Big O. Heh heh. Man I love that show. ^_^ Do you know if they're offended by Lord of the Rings? I knew of people bothered by Harry Potter but not by LOTR, which I found confusing.
Nope...LOTR is generally considered to be "good."

I think it has a lot to do with that Frodo really is your average joe, a simple hobbit for cryin' out loud, who accepts the responsibility of saving Middle Earth. He was never destined to do anything but chose to do so instead, unlike Harry who is not your average wizard. Basically stories where the character is a "chosen one" set above the others is looked down on... Stories about average, unknown people who make a long grueling climb to their victory (thus making up your plot) are more accepted because it shows the journey of one growing to be a better person and reaching his/her fullest potential.

Frodo is not a creature of magic. A lot of his accomplishments happen due to his own skills, which are the same basic survival skills we all could learn if we took the time to do so. Gandalf really acts more of a helpful guide rather then fight the battles for him.

Plus there really is no race in LOTR that is portrayed as inferior while almost every muggle in HP (good or bad) is portrayed as a somewhat ignorant/stupid character.

But that's just scratching the surface what I learned from a book I read "A Landscape with Dragons: The Battle for Your Child's Mind" which pretty much describes why some books are evil and others are good in the Christian view. It also talks about other authors like Madeleine L'Engle and the Disney movies of today versus the movies of yesterday. But I haven't read the book in a year. I didn't agree with a lot of what he said (mainly the "dragons always = evil" mentality and should therefore not be portrayed as cute, friendly or good creatures because then one's judgement would be clouded...evil could be mistaken for good), but I could understand where he was coming from...and he at least read the books he was talking about.

Granted I have read and enjoyed Harry Potter, I enjoy Evangelion very much and I have been entertained by things that other people of my faith would consider sinful.

I'm not debating the issue at all. I'm simply trying to describe to you their viewpoint since I don't think the reasoning for drawing the line between LOTR and HP is widely understood. Even I don't understand it completely...but I don't feel like reading the book again.
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Post by azulmagia » Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:59 pm

Cyanna wrote:But that's just scratching the surface what I learned from a book I read "A Landscape with Dragons: The Battle for Your Child's Mind" which pretty much describes why some books are evil and others are good in the Christian view. It also talks about other authors like Madeleine L'Engle and the Disney movies of today versus the movies of yesterday. But I haven't read the book in a year. I didn't agree with a lot of what he said (mainly the "dragons always = evil" mentality and should therefore not be portrayed as cute, friendly or good creatures because then one's judgement would be clouded...evil could be mistaken for good), but I could understand where he was coming from...and he at least read the books he was talking about.
In the Disney movies of today, namely The Little Mermaid, the preacher "pitches a tent". Actually, that's another urban legend, though it was concocted and spread by a Christian...

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