Communist chinese faq about the korean war

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:07 am

This is pretty bad its the chinese position on the korean war. It includes such gems as un troops torturing chinese prisoners etc. http://centurychina.com/history/krwarfaq.html

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:55 am

America The Fucktastically-I-Don't-Give-A-Shit-If-It-Gets-Bombed-No-But-I'm-Sorry-For-All-The-Good-People-But-On-The-Other-Hand-I-Do-Think-It-Needs-A-Thorough-Fucking-To-Wake-The-Fuck-Up-And-Smell-The-Fucking-Reality-Because-Apparently-They-Still-Live-In-The-World-Of-Pink-Elephants-And-Daisies-Thinking-That-They-Are-Perfect-Or-Even-Right-And-Actually-Imagining-That-Their-Fucking-Army-Consists-Of-Angels-With-Wings-Out-Of-Their-Asses-That-Don't-Really-Do-Anything-Wrong-Only-Kill-People-And-Then-Everyone-Cries-When-They-Die-And-Don't-Give-A-Flying-Fuck-That-They-Took-A-Good-Thousand-So-Called-Infidels-With-Each-Of-Them-Because-Yes-Their-Fucking-State-Is-Fucking-Beautiful!

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:04 pm

I'm just fucking around

Personally, I see nothing incredible in this FAQ other than a simple but slightly obvious bias.

Compared to US's propaganda of:

'OMG Hussein raped and tortured and ate babies for lunch" (I'm exaggarating, but you probably know what I'm pointing at)

Really. I'm yet to see US show remorse for some of its' merciless propaganda campaigns, let alone military campaigns, so there's nothing in there that angers me to any degree. It's just a bias. I see it on CNN everyday.

gundamzuki · Post by **gundamzuki** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:44 pm

my sentiments exactly, Otohiko. The US is so drowned in hypocrosy that we hardly realize it is there any more. that's why i much prefer British and Canadian news to our own.

samurairyu · Post by **samurairyu** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:56 pm

Why is it that sooo many people write off something that comes from a Communist country as lies yet believe what this "great" capitalistic country feeds them?

The U.S. will try to rewrite history all it wants but others still remember.

How's this one for yah? "we are satisfied with current troop levels in Iraq, we don't need any more"
(this said when there were 130,000 over there, now we have 145,000)

and

"the number of U.S. troops who have been killed in Iraq since the end of major combat is up to 118"
(I will throw in that the number of troops sent in recently is at about 20,000 who were not replacing the few that came back)

If you noticed, there is a slight discrepancy in the figures. Our number of troops goes up by 15,000 yet we sent in 20,000 in addition to those replacing the people coming back.

I estimate from their figures that appr. 5,000 have died. Seeing as how there are now about 65 attacks happening daily and we still haven't secured the large amounts of arms that are just sitting around in partially-bombed warehouses and to top it off we only have "control" in the cities...this is an untenable position to keep.

We didn't have the support of the people that we needed so our young need to die to fill the pockets of a few of the old as long as possible. Yay Capitalism! Yay "Democracy"!! Yay Fake Voting!!!!

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:34 pm

I studied this in my writing seminar last year:

History is, in practice, just the interpretation of the past by the dominant government party. It is really unfeasible to analyze history objectively, because there are just so many events that have happened in the past and so many interpretations of each event. In order to analyze history without bias you would have to study every single interpretation, which would take forever.

Instead, history is taught by highlighting what is considered "important." Different nations have different ways of deciding what is "important." For example, the Japanese government directly controls what goes in history textbooks, so they can decide what historical events to emphasize, what historical events to downplay, and what interpretations to take. The U.S. history textbooks are published by private companies, but often state or local governments choose the books to buy for their public schools, so the publishers need to cater to the preferences of the state and local governments.

State-controlled interpretation of history may be unfair, but pretty much every nation or culture practices it. It is not a symptom any specific government type or economic system. Rather, any government can and will interpret history from a particular perspective for a multitude of reasons including: making themselves appear justified in their actions, making their enemies appear unjustified, apologizing for past mistakes in order to reconcile with past enemies (Germans did this after WWII), and making allies (political or economic) look justified in their actions.

samurairyu · Post by **samurairyu** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:40 pm

downwithpants wrote:I studied this in my writing seminar last year:

History is, in practice, just the interpretation of the past by the dominant government party. It is really unfeasible to analyze history objectively, because there are just so many events that have happened in the past and so many interpretations of each event. In order to analyze history without bias you would have to study every single interpretation, which would take forever.

Instead, history is taught by highlighting what is considered "important." Different nations have different ways of deciding what is "important." For example, the Japanese government directly controls what goes in history textbooks, so they can decide what historical events to emphasize, what historical events to downplay, and what interpretations to take. The U.S. history textbooks are published by private companies, but often state or local governments choose the books to buy for their public schools, so the publishers need to cater to the preferences of the state and local governments.

State-controlled interpretation of history may be unfair, but pretty much every nation or culture practices it. It is not a symptom any specific government type or economic system. Rather, any government can and will interpret history from a particular perspective for a multitude of reasons including: making themselves appear justified in their actions, making their enemies appear unjustified, apologizing for past mistakes in order to reconcile with past enemies (Germans did this after WWII), and making allies (political or economic) look justified in their actions.

Agreed

All gov'ts lie and none last forever so history is always open to interpretation(I'm a minor in Histoy by the way). To read all acounts and point to somewhere in the middle is likely the most accurate.

SSJVegita0609 · Post by **SSJVegita0609** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:20 pm

Everybody lies, its that simple. But some lie to a lesser degree than others. All that one can really do is interpret the facts for themselves and avoid extremism on either side.

samurairyu · Post by **samurairyu** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:33 pm

SSJVegita0609 wrote:Everybody lies, its that simple. But some lie to a lesser degree than others. All that one can really do is interpret the facts for themselves and avoid extremism on either side.

Good comments, this place rocks.

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:59 pm

Your all a bunch of communist bastards go read maos little red book. And of course all communist countrys lie that's because there whole goverment is a lie. They are Oligarchys and they have to protect their power. And um is there anyone here that doubts that Saddam hussein was an evil sick twisted monster?

Mr Oni