To lipsync or not to lipsync, that is the question...

[jbone]

lip synching, at the very least, is a good way to get through sections you don't know what else to do with. if well excecuted it can make your video more appealing.

That is entirely the wrong reason to synch mouth movements.

Any sort of synch for synch's sake is purposeless and contributes nothing to the overall purpose of a video.

Lip synching should only be used when the synching of lips has a purpose - otherwise, it'd just be so much as LinkinParkZ with mouths instead of Goku's fists.

[Flint the Dwarf]

lip synching, at the very least, is a good way to get through sections you don't know what else to do with. if well excecuted it can make your video more appealing.

That is entirely the wrong reason to synch mouth movements.

I agree completely. But he did say "at the very least" as a sort of disclaimer. Look at his avatar, jbone, look at it!

[downwithpants]

lip synching, at the very least, is a good way to get through sections you don't know what else to do with. if well excecuted it can make your video more appealing.

That is entirely the wrong reason to synch mouth movements.

I agree completely. But he did say "at the very least" as a sort of disclaimer. Look at his avatar, jbone, look at it!

thanks flint,
ideally, no editing technique (lip sync, lyric sync, digital effects, etc.) should be used just to get through a section. but sometimes we just get lazy...

[hyperchica11]

[quote="asrrin29"] I am also not blessed with Adobe after Effects as the guide suggested, and I suck at using photoshop, so I decided to just change the two parts to make them fit better./quote]

O.o after effects? Who needs after effects? You could lip sync with WMM if you wanted. all you need is a screen shot of someone with their mouths open at different rates, then place them on the timeline in the order and duration you need them and....

Ok. i'm not the one to explain this. but it doesn't take after effects. You can do a decent lip sync easily.

[Onideus_Mad_Hatter]

Well if you do decide to do lip synching the first thing I would do is just forget the "lip synching" guide available on the .org, it's basically worthless.

If it's your first time doing lip synching I would recommend doing stastic frame lip synching (in which nothing in the frame is moving except for the characters lips). To do that you basically just need three identical frames each with a different mouth, one wide, one half, one closed. You can get the frames pretty easy by opening up the video in VDub, copying the frames you want to the clip board and then pasting em into Paint Shop or whatever as a new images. Save em as bitmaps, viola. Then you just arrange the frames as you like in Adobe Premiere, alter the durations, etc, etc until it looks the way you want it.

Another way to do it is what I call "wishing well" synching. Where basically you just take some footage of the person talking, throw it into Premiere and hope that it lines up. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it'll match up pretty close and then you can just do some minor splicing, speed shifting, and reshuffling to get it to look perfect.

Hrmmm...maybe I should like take a few days and put together a REAL guide on how to do lip synching, with examples, templates, walkthroughs, that sorta thing...

[hyperchica11]

yeah, hatter pretty much said what i was attempting to say. I failed miserably. He did good.

[hyperchica11]

he did good

I meant well.

"He did well.

or "he did a good job."

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[schrizo]

lip syncing is not nearly as hard as doing complex special digital effects. There are different methods but it isn't that hard at all. I did some lip syncing on my first vid. try it and see how it looks.

You don't have to lip sync the entire vid either. Just a few lines, if well picked, can be lip synced to really enhance a video, especially if it highlights or emphasizes certain parts or points.

Try it. Good luck.

[Jonathan02us]

To Lipsync or not to lipsync, that is the question, If it were up to me, i would definitely give it a try, i've seen a music video that uses lipsyncing and it was great. But then again the video was done by a video editor and for us novice amv maker, its a lot harder than it looks. Its up to u buddy, if u got the time and patients for lipsyncing, then do it, it will make ur amv much better, but if u dont have the patient then just polish it up and be happy. Mayb on ur next amv u could try it from scratch so that u wont have to mess with it in the end.

If u do end up doing it for this or future amv then good luck, i shall do the same with mine.

[Onideus_Mad_Hatter]

lip syncing is not nearly as hard as doing complex special digital effects.

*snicker*

Yeah, right. Most "special digital effects" that I've seen in AMVs were all cheap pulls done from ass raping the default transitions in Adobe AfterEffects. Lip synching, at least head motion and background motion lip synching is EXTREMELY hard to do, in fact in some respects I'd go so far as to say it IS the most difficult effect to pull off. Mostly because of all the long drawn out redundant math that needs to be done to integrate the mouth movement durations into the head movement durations. Otherwise it'll wind up looking all jerky. Even doing scene splitting and scene manipulation isn't as hard to do because all that can be done with green screens and overlays. About the only thing that I would say is harder, and so far as far as I know I'm the only one to have actually done it, is creating animation sequences from scratch. Like in my Forever AMV where I make Sakura suck her thumb, or the once scene where I edited out Tomoyo and edited in her mom. To match the scene precisely though I had to take an original static image of her mom, split it apart into various sections (her hair, her face, her clothes, her arm, her forearm, and her hand), put each of them into their own layer and then each one had to be manipulated, moved and rotated just right to create a seamless flow of movement. That one lil scene in Forever (which also includes head motion lip synching), that is only about 5 seconds long, took me nearly a month to complete. So don't tell me that ass raping the default transitions in AfterEffects takes more effort.