Thoughts of Leaving animemusicvideos.org

[Fungie½]

For the past couple of months, I've noticed that people have been getting so unbelievably rude. People are unwilling to help new ones out and around the site. Blantly rude comments about videos has been one of the many "popular trends" around the site. And worst of all, the people here have been discouraging many to come and visit this site again.

What kind of way is that to act people? This site was meant to talk about and share anime music videos. If someone asks "How do I join a studio?", you don't have to think of some witty comeback as to how to make them look like a complete duffas.

With these thoughts in mind, I've been heavily thinking about leaving this site. I'd definately like to continue editing, but with the parades of rediculous comments and treating people like crap, I've had trouble finding a reason to stay here. I will definately keep in touch with my good friends on this site though.

I'll be making my decision in the next week, so any comments, feel free to post away.

[SQ]

Well, this is probably due to it being the start of the school year again and everybody being stressed out. People hardly have time for their hobbies anymore, and n00bs asking "stupid" questions "waste" people's time, so they basically don't want to deal with it.

On the other hand, new members really don't get on the forum anymore and just leech, so it's the same old members dealing with the same "stupid" questions and we're just tired. I cannot tell you how annoyed I am everytime I see a "How do you get the movie audio to stop playing in WMM?" question. I used to help out, give screenshots and whatnot, but after the third time it basically got to being "Can't you randomly push the FIVE buttons that are there and figure it out for yourself?!"(I've never actually said that in IM or a thread, though).
So, it's probably not intentional... Unless you're Fyrt on a normal day or NME on a spammy one.

As for you, Fungie, if you want to keep making AMVs, why leave the site? It's obvious that people are only treating other people like shit on the forums. So just stop coming here. That doesn't mean you have to quit posting in your journal or your profile and whatnot.
Also, if you're really concerned, why not help these noobs yourself? I mean, you've helped me so many times, that I feel like I'm indebted to you. So, in other words, keep doing what you do...

But if it really bugs you that much, just be like Anime Jedi. Sure, he doesn't make AMVs, but he used to be an avid poster on the forum. DId he quit the site just because he got a life? Hell no! He just quit coming to the forum...

So, I hope you make the right decision. Don't leave the org, Fungie. ;_;

[Anime Jedi]

You're right when it comes to the fact that people shouldn't act that way, but I don't believe leaving is the best way to deal with it.

Unless of course your main goal is to maintain your own happiness, then I suppose leaving might work out. lol

But anyways, peoples attitudes unfortunetely have never really changed. For the longest time people have always been like this. You can't change a person. You can try your best to show them that their attitudes aren't exactly appropriate, and hope that it'll rub off on them, but that's about it.

[Otohiko]

It depends how you look at it, really.

Yes, some people are unhelpful and mean, but also yes, the newbie questions get redundant.

See what you want for yourself. Personally, I don't think everyone is a mean arsehole around here.

But, really, it's a fun place but with a very particular kind of fun to it. See if it still appeals you, and decide what you think is best.

[SQ]

Hm, well, my AJ contrast means no more, now... But, think of the time he was inactive! Almost as if... He wern't making a comeback!...

Yeah, I'll just shut up now...

[MAS PRODUCTIONS]

Why do you have to create a topic about leaving? If you really wanted to leave you would have already. This is a site about displaying and critizing. It is a forum, where people are given the chance to speak their minds (the good and the bad). People are going to be rude, just as well as they can be nice. Sometimes people see rudeness where these just is critizism that they just dont like.

As far as the treatment of noobs, its as SQ said, we help out when we can, but it really annoys us when they dont spend the time to look around before asking a question. When I joined I had spent a month reading the forum's and learning, I dont expect the same from everyone but it is a good idea to read before posting.

[Fungie½]

As for you, Fungie, if you want to keep making AMVs, why leave the site? It's obvious that people are only treating other people like shit on the forums. So just stop coming here. That doesn't mean you have to quit posting in your journal or your profile and whatnot.
Also, if you're really concerned, why not help these noobs yourself? I mean, you've helped me so many times, that I feel like I'm indebted to you. So, in other words, keep doing what you do...

Yeah, I agree. I think I may just quit the forums for now. Thanks for thinking that I help the newbies. I work incredibly hard to make sure that new people get the same respect that others here get. I'm anything but popular, and hardly anyone knows who the heck I am, so I don't really care if they go to a con and talk trash about me. They can kiss my you know what

But anyways, peoples attitudes unfortunetely have never really changed. For the longest time people have always been like this. You can't change a person. You can try your best to show them that their attitudes aren't exactly appropriate, and hope that it'll rub off on them, but that's about it.

I agree, and I'm not trying to change anyone here, but lately the people here have just been so... arrogant! It's like talking to an egoist and people are just so cocky here. I wouldn't treat my worst enemy like this. This is just too much folks.

[FirestormXIII]

For the past couple of months, I've noticed that people have been getting so unbelievably rude. People are unwilling to help new ones out and around the site. Blantly rude comments about videos has been one of the many "popular trends" around the site. And worst of all, the people here have been discouraging many to come and visit this site again.

Amended to more properly reflect reality:

For the past couple of years, I've noticed that people have been <s>getting</s> so unbelievably rude. People are unwilling to help new ones out and around the site. Blantly rude comments about videos have, for some time, been one of the many "popular trends" around the site. And worst of all, the people here have been discouraging many to come and visit this site again.


Honestly, that facet of the org is no different from when I first joined. The only thing that has changed is that the percentage of sarcastic commentors have increased slightly, and the level of people helping others has become less noticable.
Really, it's perception.
The people who are unwilling to help are usually more outspoken, and more noticable, than those who actually are helping.

Combined with the fact that new people still post in the wrong forum for a lot of things, oftentimes because they don't take the time to find the right forum (And there's no excuse for that, not when everything is prominently labled and forum descriptions are given), and it becomes easier to have people say "Omg, STFU n00b" on a frequent basis.

Are the people making comments in the right? On some levels, yes. Technically, no.
If anyone remembers the rule Phade made about posts in the wrong forum, it implicitly said that members should point the post to the right forum AND answer the question if it's within their ability to do so.

If you have nothing to say that either points the question in the right direction respectfully, or answers the question and redirects future comments...then don't post. But people seem to have either forgotten that, or just disregard it entirely. I've been guilty of it myself.

On the flip side, questions posted in the right forum with at least half-decent grammar and spelling usually get answered quite nicely and without much hassle.

One thing you seem to leave out is the prevalence of new people who want their questions answered right that second, and if they're not, they get testy. As well as new people who makes posts that are almost completely indecipherable because of bad spelling and such (people whose first language is not english excluded). And let's not forget newbies that ask a question, get it answered in a reasonable and respectful manner, and still behave rudely towards whoever answered it. With people like this running around, (who are in the majority of new posters) responding sarcastically and being rude suddenly seem like more attractive options than actually helping.


If you decide to leave the org, what exactly does that improve? If the number of people who don't help are on the rise, then people who actually do help running away is only going to shift the scales that much more. If you're hoping to leave the org, and then come back later to find that everyone is suddenly respectful to one another, then let me be your wake up call: It's not going to happen that way. And if it somehow does, it won't be because you had any hand in it. If you care about animemusicvideos.org, then the idea that you're leaving it to fall apart should bug you at least a little.

There have been enough people who've left because they didn't like the way the org was 'becoming'. What they didn't seem to realize was that being helpful is a solution, running away isn't. And if you stop becoming part of the solution...well, I'm sure you know the rest.

[Veldrin]

We all think of leaving here (besides people whith no life....CoughPropyroCough) I for one have thought of it many times. I say go for it if its what you want. We all will leave some day.

[RedFusionX]

I might leave the whole idea of making AMVs, but I won't leave the forum, it is a good way for me to kill time when I am bored

As for people being rude, thats them and if you take it seriously, you have a problem, these people don't know you and they probably won't, I mean come on, most people don't even know if I am a boy or girl, and I leave it to them to decide. Don't take things said here personally, it's your own fault if you do.