About Black Lines Or Left And Right Side Of DVD Video?

Inuyasha666 · Post by **Inuyasha666** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:36 am

Ok, I bought the Slayers DVD Collection and want to make a video, I noticed when I ripped the DVD using Smartripper and then used DVD2AVI to rip it to an AVI file, theres these black bars on the left and right sides of the video. I've seen most AMVs that used DVD Footage without them. How do u get rid of them. NOTE: I'm very stupid when it comes to techincal stuff like this, plz I just want a simple answer that any idiot could understand.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:30 am

Add to your avisynth script: Crop(8,0,-8,-0)

Inuyasha666 · Post by **Inuyasha666** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:32 am

Zarxrax wrote:Add to your avisynth script: Crop(8,0,-8,-0)

WTF is avisynth??!

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:45 am

They're called Overscan Lines, and are used so that the plastic or metal that edges around your TV screen doesn't cover up any of the picture. On how to get rid of them, edit your video like normal, then, when you export your video from Premiere (or your editing program of choice) using huffyuv, and subsequently open it in VirtualDub, click Video->Filters->Add->Brightness and Contrast(don't change the B/C settings leave them at default)->Ok. Then in the filters window, select the filter you just added, and a Button titled "Cropping" should ungray. Press it, and a new window should pop up. Use X1 and X2 in equal amounts(if you do 8 on X1, do 8 on X2) to increase the amount of cropping, being sure to use multiples of 8, as not to foul yourself up with codec's later. once you've gotten the cropping to your liking, click Ok->Ok, and compress your video and Audio like normal.

Hope this helps,
-Danny

Inuyasha666 · Post by **Inuyasha666** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:47 am

Dannywilson wrote:They're called Overscan Lines, and are used so that the plastic or metal that edges around your TV screen doesn't cover up any of the picture. On how to get rid of them, edit your video like normal, then, when you export your video from Premiere (or your editing program of choice) using huffyuv, and subsequently open it in VirtualDub, click Video->Filters->Add->Brightness and Contrast(don't change the B/C settings leave them at default)->Ok. Then in the filters window, select the filter you just added, and a Button titled "Cropping" should ungray. Press it, and a new window should pop up. Use X1 and X2 in equal amounts(if you do 8 on X1, do 8 on X2) to increase the amount of cropping, being sure to use multiples of 8, as not to foul yourself up with codec's later. once you've gotten the cropping to your liking, click Ok->Ok, and compress your video and Audio like normal.

Hope this helps,
-Danny

Yes, it did, I remember doing that long time ago, just playing around cutting off subtitles with a fansub episode of Inuyasha I have. But one question? What is huffyuv?

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:39 am

Inuyasha666 wrote:
Dannywilson wrote:They're called Overscan Lines, and are used so that the plastic or metal that edges around your TV screen doesn't cover up any of the picture. On how to get rid of them, edit your video like normal, then, when you export your video from Premiere (or your editing program of choice) using huffyuv, and subsequently open it in VirtualDub, click Video->Filters->Add->Brightness and Contrast(don't change the B/C settings leave them at default)->Ok. Then in the filters window, select the filter you just added, and a Button titled "Cropping" should ungray. Press it, and a new window should pop up. Use X1 and X2 in equal amounts(if you do 8 on X1, do 8 on X2) to increase the amount of cropping, being sure to use multiples of 8, as not to foul yourself up with codec's later. once you've gotten the cropping to your liking, click Ok->Ok, and compress your video and Audio like normal.

Hope this helps,
-Danny
Yes, it did, I remember doing that long time ago, just playing around cutting off subtitles with a fansub episode of Inuyasha I have. But one question? What is huffyuv?

Huffyuv is a lossless codec, meaning whatever video data that gets thrown in it when you encode with it (Colour, Luminance, Motion, etc.) is exactly what you see when you open it in your preferred video editor or viewer. It has several drawbacks though, the main being large filesize(10 seconds of 720x480 video is about 50 megabytes at 24fps), and the second being the amount of processing power used to decode it when it's opened on a slower computer. Divx and Xvid are representative of lossy codecs. If used correctly, they drop a amount of data, un-perceivable to the human eye. They use a technique utilizing "Keyframes", which is where a frame tells the frames after it what they look like in comparison with the original frame. If you are editing using one of these codecs and frame 5 is the keyframe for frames 6-13, if you make a cut at frame 9, the program freaks out, cause it doesn't have any idea what frame 9 is built off of (5), and therefor can't construct frames 9-13 without frame 5. Now back to Huffyuv. In Huffyuv EVERY frame is a keyframe, thereby eliminating the need for the frames to build off of each other, and creating an environment more conducive to slice-and-dice editing.

Hope this was helpful,
-Danny

Inuyasha666 · Post by **Inuyasha666** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:48 am

Dannywilson wrote:Huffyuv is a lossless codec, meaning whatever video data that gets thrown in it when you encode with it (Colour, Luminance, Motion, etc.) is exactly what you see when you open it in your preferred video editor or viewer. It has several drawbacks though, the main being large filesize(10 seconds of 720x480 video is about 50 megabytes at 24fps), and the second being the amount of processing power used to decode it when it's opened on a slower computer. Divx and Xvid are representative of lossy codecs. If used correctly, they drop a amount of data, un-perceivable to the human eye. They use a technique utilizing "Keyframes", which is where a frame tells the frames after it what they look like in comparison with the original frame. If you are editing using one of these codecs and frame 5 is the keyframe for frames 6-13, if you make a cut at frame 9, the program freaks out, cause it doesn't have any idea what frame 9 is built off of (5), and therefor can't construct frames 9-13 without frame 5. Now back to Huffyuv. In Huffyuv EVERY frame is a keyframe, thereby eliminating the need for the frames to build off of each other, and creating an environment more conducive to slice-and-dice editing.

Hope this was helpful,
-Danny

Why is it so damn confusing just to make a DVD quality AMV??!!!

DAMN IT! I just want to make a fricking video. I don't feel like having to take a week of reading just to learn all this super technical stuff, cause to be blunt, I hate reading, I hate having to learn something and take like hours and hours just to figure it out, I'm probably one of the dumber people in the world when it comes to this stuff like video editing. Isn't there an easy way for an idiot like me to just make a high quality video without having to use AVIsynth or whatever, I don't even know what that is, and virtual dub. Why can't u just make the video in like Premiere and that it. I've downloaded tons of videos that are like DVD quality, and any I make just looks like shit when I compress it with DivX 5.1. I know XviD is probably better, but I don't know where to get it. AAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do I really have to go through the pain stacking torture of learning all this just to make a really good AMV?

BTW, I found the guide to it, but after 1 min, I think my brain was going to explode all get all over my keyboard. I really don't want to take a week just to figure out this stuff when u have to be a fricking super genius to do this stuff, cause I'm not a genius like all of you, OK!!!! Your going to have to explain this to a guy who has no idea about any of this.

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:09 am

Inuyasha666 wrote:BTW, I found the guide to it, but after 1 min, I think my brain was going to explode all get all over my keyboard. I really don't want to take a week just to figure out this stuff when u have to be a fricking super genius to do this stuff, cause I'm not a genius like all of you, OK!!!! Your going to have to explain this to a guy who has no idea about any of this.

Hey, I'm not a genius, and with the exception of possibly 2 people who are regulars around here, I doubt there are many here. What we do have alot of though, are PATIENT people. If you wanna learn how to do something, you might as well learn how to do it well. I know this may sound confusing right now, but if you stay with it, I have no doubt that you will learn it bit by bit. The guides are a bit daunting at first, so I suggest you try it like this: read through a chapter or 2 a day, and take note on things you don't understand, as if you were at school. Then once you've done that, post the questions here in the forum, explaining EXACTLY what you don't understand about each one. If you are clear in your posts, it makes people much more willing to help you than if you just type "I don't understand the guides! Someone explain them to me!". If you do this, it also gives pointers to the people that write the guides on where they could do a little more explanation.

SS5_Majin_Bebi · Post by **SS5_Majin_Bebi** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:56 pm

Inuyasha, its so damn confusing because its technical. Theres no easy way to edit video and get good quality. No such thing as a "133t Editor" plugin for Premiere. You have to read the guides till you know them in your sleep, and practice. Search the internet for other tutorials and downloads, get your hands on all the plugins/add-ons/programs/filters/encoders/transcoders you can, and PRACTICE. Find every codec you can think of (heres a good place to start: XviD, HuffYUV and PicMJPEG ) and edit till your eyes water with the strain.

Like I said, theres really no easy way to do it. It requires hard work and alot of effort and time. Like everything worth doing, I guess.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:02 pm

Wow. All this complicated discussion when all you had to say was: Go into whatever program you use to process or edit video and look for a crop option