AMV FTP info (was: AMV's Available for Download)

Sidicas · Post by **Sidicas** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:48 pm

Sidicas wrote: .6 to 1.2 cents per megabyte

Hmm...that's can't be right

Sidicas · Post by **Sidicas** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:00 pm

http://www.gcn.com/archives/gcn/1999/March8/1c.htm wrote: The average monthly cost per Kbps at the 622-Mbps OC-12 rate is about 16 cents,

1 Kbps / 8 = .125 KBps (sustained for the whole month) for 16 cents

.125 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 30 = 324000 Total Kilobytes transferred for 16 cents a month.

324 Megs for 16 cents....

324x = 16

x = .0494 cents per meg...my bad..sorry bout that. Feel free to double check my math.

Sidicas · Post by **Sidicas** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:19 pm

Sidicas wrote:
http://www.gcn.com/archives/gcn/1999/March8/1c.htm wrote: The average monthly cost per Kbps at the 622-Mbps OC-12 rate is about 16 cents,

just 'cause I'm bored:

Monthly cost to max out that OC-12: 99,952,000 cents or $999,520.00
Maxed Bandwidth of that OC-12: 77.75 Megabytes per second

Yea..I think that's a bit faster than my 56k modem :
Maxed Bandwidth of that 56k: .005 Megabytes per second

Sidicas · Post by **Sidicas** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:53 pm

Sidicas wrote:Monthly cost to max out that OC-12: 99,952,000 cents or $999,520.00
Maxed Bandwidth of that OC-12: 77.75 Megabytes per second

'er that should be:
9952000 cents or $99,520.00
Maybe I should learn to double check my work

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Or maybe I just make mistakes to see who is smart enough to fix 'em!
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Or maybe I sub-consciously make the mistakes so I have a reason to post again (SpamPanda, you goin down boy!)

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 6:30 pm

I'm just kind of getting these vibes about the huge desire for hosting space. I've got a server with a pretty fair amount of bandwidth, but am a bit leery of hosting huge numbers of music videos. I'm almost considering running an amv contest where the prizes that I'm giving out is web hosting. What do people think?

FurryCurry · Post by **FurryCurry** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 7:29 pm

Excellent idea, Bogo.

marcyu · Post by **marcyu** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 7:50 pm

Doing work on some DSL lines. Qwest currently has a speical for 1 month free and free installation. 1 Mbit upload and 1 Mbit upload for $88 a month. I'm thinking about it.........

-Marc

ErMaC · Post by **ErMaC** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 3:28 am

Sadly Marcy I'm sure that if you abuse that bandwidth they will also shut you down.

Unless you buy a dedicated T1 type of service, or Business DSL (which may be the type of DSL you're looking at, I'm not sure) where your bandwidth is guarenteed, they will cancel or reprimand your account with extreme prejudice.

The reason is that all these places make money based on the fact that people don't actually USE all the bandwidth that broadband provides. The average DSL customer uses it in the evenings, or the mornings, to check email, browse webpages, maybe download a few MP3s here and there, but that's it.

The so call "Heavy users" are the ones that run sites off their connections, transfer massive amounts of files all day long, and max out their up and downstreams. Despite the fact that "Heavy Users" are simply utilizing what they've been given, they cost the broadband companies far more money to maintain than the rest of their customers combined. Thus the companies have put clauses into their contracts which basically say, "This is the service you get, but don't expect to use this service all the time or we will shut you down or charge you massive amounts of money."

Is this fair? That's a debate that's been going on for some time. The only reason everyone can have these kinds of speeds is if everyone doesn't use them constantly. Thus some view it as a sort of "sacrifice of the individual for the good of the group" thing - the good of the many over the good of the one, to quote star trek.
Others view it as a corporate scam to get people to pay for bandwidth they will never be allowed to use.

Either way that's the way things are.

I'm very sad to see Marcy's site go, but I'll be perfectly honest and say I'm not surprised.

Time to switch my links back and restart ye-olde-Serv-U-FTP.

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Wed Aug 21, 2002 11:08 am

*scratches head*

I dont get it. Lets say, for example, Verison gives you a Dedicated DSL line. How does using it constantly cost Verison money? I mean, it's not like your truely slowing down other users or their network, you've got your OWN dedicated wire, at least to and from them, but then they've got their lines probably direct to the backbone, I'm assuming PROBABLY T3's. Even if 15% of their customers used all their bandwith constantly, (assuming 1000 users, 250 of which are using the max bandwith possible, 1.5 mbit per sec over a T1 type connection, which would be a constant upstream of 375 megs a sec) could be pushed through 9 T3 lines. ... oh. Nevermind, I think I just answered my own question.

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Wed Aug 21, 2002 11:55 am

Verizon has to pay for bandwidth that leaves their network. Under most of the peering agreements, networks play for how much bandwidth leave their networks into other networks. If they two peering networks are of about similar size, these agreements tend to balance each other out and they just share the costof the link between the two. Verizon does have to pay for the links from it to various backbones to actually be able to connnect to the rest of the Internet, and despite there being a lot of it, and they tend to oversell the bandwidth that they have outgoing because under most circumstances they don't need that much.